From: J. Clarke on
On 6/6/2010 12:25 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
> In<4c0a2e36$0$34205$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, on 06/05/2010
> at 08:58 PM, Dave Frank<robin51(a)dodo.com.au> said:
>
>> Of course, the programs were in machine code.
>
> Your saying "of course" does not make it true, or even plausible. You
> keep refusing to actually provide evidence, or even independent
> claims. The last time you cited something that you claimed to have
> been written in machine language it turned out to have been written in
> assembler.

What do you believe to be the difference between machine code and assembler?


From: Simon Wright on
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> writes:

> On 6/6/2010 12:25 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>> In<4c0a2e36$0$34205$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net>, on 06/05/2010
>> at 08:58 PM, Dave Frank<robin51(a)dodo.com.au> said:
>>
>>> Of course, the programs were in machine code.
>>
>> Your saying "of course" does not make it true, or even plausible. You
>> keep refusing to actually provide evidence, or even independent
>> claims. The last time you cited something that you claimed to have
>> been written in machine language it turned out to have been written in
>> assembler.
>
> What do you believe to be the difference between machine code and assembler?

Perhaps he means they look different :-)

Ferranti's Fixed-Point AutoCode: v1 = v2 + v3
Binary: 000 01 0 000 00001 00010 00011
Spoken as: 0110 1 2 3

Clearly not the same at all!!!
From: glen herrmannsfeldt on
In comp.lang.fortran Arthur Evans Jr <nospam(a)someisp.net> wrote:
> In article <4c0b234f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice(a)news.patriot.net>,
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

>> The last time you cited something that you claimed to have
>> been written in machine language it turned out to have been
>> written in assembler.

> As one who was writing programs in 1957, I can assure you that the two
> terms were then used interchangeably.

Unless you are actually doing it. There are stories from the early
days of S/360 about patching object decks by adding cards.
As each card has a starting address and length, you could easily
patch a few bytes by punching a new card with the appropriate
bytes and adding it later in the object deck. In that case,
one might actually try to keep the distinction.

Otherwise, I agree.

-- glen
From: Martin Krischik on
Am 06.06.2010, 17:19 Uhr, schrieb J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net>:

> On 6/6/2010 12:25 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

> What do you believe to be the difference between machine code and
> assembler?

6502 Assembler:

LDA #10

6502 Machine code:

A9 10

Any more silly questions?

Martin
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From: Martin Krischik on
Am 06.06.2010, 16:53 Uhr, schrieb Arthur Evans Jr <nospam(a)someisp.net>:

> In article <4c0b234f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice(a)news.patriot.net>,


> As one who was writing programs in 1957, I can assure you that the two
> terms were then used interchangeably.

They where not in the '80 any more.

Martin
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