From: smlunatick on
On Dec 11, 6:56 pm, "JimL" <inva...(a)invalid.inv> wrote:
> Thanks.  I found an extra utility in add/remove and unstalled it.  That
> fixed it.  I guess merely installing such a utility makes it permanently
> connected, which doesn'tmake much sense to me.  Most utilities I've seen
> only work when you call them.
>
> "smlunatick" <yves...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fac8ff5f-a084-42d5-bc38-60c1974864f7(a)j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 5:38 am, "JimL" <inva...(a)invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If I may be so bold, why?
>
> > I'm getting an XP error about the Thinkpad's internal Intel WiFi's
> > conflicting setup programs. Also the term Device Ownership Password is not
> > a Linksys term. Why look to Linksys?
>
> > "Roger" <nos...(a)anymail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:enDeo3geKHA.1592(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> > > Search here:
> > >http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/support
> > > and search/ask here:
> > >http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board?board.id=Wireless_Routers
>
> > > On 12/10/2009 9:35 PM, JimL wrote:
> > >> I just got a refurbished ThinkPad T60P from Lenovo with XP Pro SP3
> > >> preloaded. I'm attempting to get the wireless to working with a
> > >> Linksys.
>
> > >> At several points, including boot-up, I get a box entitled:
>
> > >> "Intel R Configuration Service," saying
> > >> -----------------------------------------------------
> > >> "Another wireless utility is communicating with the Intel R
> > >> PRO/Wireless
> > >> WiFi adapter.
> > >> To avoid conflicts, profile management features have been temporarily
> > >> disabled.
>
> > >> To switch back to the Intel R PROSet/Wireless WiFi Software and your
> > >> existing profiles, disable the other wireless utility, click on the
> > >> Intel
> > >> R
> > >> PROSet/Wireless Connection Utility icon in your taskbar and select
> > >> "Enable
> > >> WiFi Control".
> > >> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> > >> Here as at several places in the networking apparatus I find such
> > >> explanations far short of explaining things.
>
> > >> For instance I keep seeing references to Access Points. Why do they
> > >> assume
> > >> everybody knows what Access Points are? I tried turning on a wireless
> > >> connection and was asked for a "Device owners password" or something
> > >> like
> > >> that. I looked it up. The instructions said to find it and enter it.
> > >> Huge, HUGE help!
>
> > >> In the above:
>
> > >> 1. I know nothing about a "wireless utility" let alone "ANOTHER
> > >> wireless
> > >> utility.
> > >> 2. I know nothing about profiles.
> > >> 3. Disable the other wireless utility???
> > >> 4. There is no icon on my taskbar named, "Intel R PROSet/Wireless
> > >> Connection
> > >> Utility." I'm guessing it has a shorter name of some kind. Why do they
> > >> assume a person would know what such a shorter name would be. Maybe it
> > >> has
> > >> a name that all networking gurus know about? Or maybe it is
> > >> identifyable
> > >> by
> > >> its appearance. How would anyone know about that?
>
> > >> I don't know how any utility got involved. I see icons having to do
> > >> with
> > >> ThinkVantage. I don't know what ThinkVantage is. Maybe that is the
> > >> Other
> > >> Wireless Utility?
>
> > >> Surely someone thinks this is all child's play. Well it may be, but it
> > >> looks clear as mud to me as an uninitiated one. I'd appreciate any help
> > >> on
> > >> making this wireless connection work.
>
> > --
> > For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> > JimL
>
> You had mentioned Linksys, which can be a wireless adapter or / and a
> router.
>
> As for the Connectivity tools, you can have two softwares installed on
> your Windows XP: Microsoft's Wireless Zero Configuration and Intel
> ProSet Wireless.  However only one tool can be used to manage the
> wireless network settings for the Intel wifi card.  Access the
> Services "options" from the Control Panel "Administrative Tools"
> applet and turn off the Wireless Zero Configuration.  This will let
> you to access the Intel ProSet wireless tools.
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL

It should be noted that some utilities will install themselves into
the automatic startup "sections" of the registry or the Program Groups.
From: JimL on
"smlunatick" <yveslec(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:58a83825-2519-4efc-839c-df2d8fad962d(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...


> It should be noted that some utilities will install themselves into
> the automatic startup "sections" of the registry or the Program Groups.


So right. Even though I've known that for years it still takes me by
surprise when a supposedly good company forces their stuff down your throat.
I guess there are no good big companies left. They're all big companies
with small people running them.

--
For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

JimL


From: smlunatick on
On Dec 14, 3:51 pm, "JimL" <inva...(a)invalid.inv> wrote:
> "smlunatick" <yves...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:58a83825-2519-4efc-839c-df2d8fad962d(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
> > It should be noted that some utilities will install themselves into
> > the automatic startup "sections" of the registry or the Program Groups.
>
> So right.  Even though I've known that for years it still takes me by
> surprise when a supposedly good company forces their stuff down your throat.
> I guess there are no good big companies left.  They're all big companies
> with small people running them.
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL

Most "large" OEMs (Dell, HP, IBM --> Lenovo) all assume that the
individual users are not that "computer savvy" and in general will
force their own tools on. And when XP SP2 originally came out, MS
"forced" their own Wireless Zero Configuration tool on.