botnetWorks - Call for experimental botnet beta testers
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From: gtownfunk on 5 Mar 2010 15:45 On Mar 5, 4:25 am, "Ant" <n...(a)home.today> wrote: > "gtownfunk" wrote: > > - Written in C# > > Yuk. > > > instead of obscure scripting languages hackers might use > > Bot authors prefer ASM, C or C++. > Agreed, not trying to market to bot authors. > > - Runs on the .NET Framework you are familiar with > > Am I? I did a five day course on it once. > So, it won't run on a unix box. Not right now. We're trying to keep it simple enough to run through Mono though such a release is quite a ways off. Ben Camp http://www.botnetworks.com/
From: gtownfunk on 5 Mar 2010 15:50 On Mar 5, 8:31 am, "T.H" <tinfoli...(a)nospamplease.com> wrote: > gtownfunk wrote: > > We are just about to release a product and are looking for some > > serious beta testers to give it a spin and let us know how you like > > it: > > > snip... > > I like your Micro$oft marketing model. Selling /Beta/ software to the > end user. SELLING Beta software. Well, to be clear the preliminary pricing information that is on the website is not for the beta testers program. Some pending updates to the website will go live in a couple hours since I suppose this was not clear enough. Right now our projected release date is May 31st. We're hoping to have beta copies in the hands of our testers around April 1st. > > It has worked for Micro$oft though. You are more honest than Micro$oft > about the developmental state of your product. That is a refreshing truth. > > Good luck. *grin* Ben Camp http://www.botnetworks.com/
From: FromTheRafters on 5 Mar 2010 20:20 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:hmpr0601rq6(a)news3.newsguy.com... > Like there is no benevolent virus, there is no benevolent botnet. This assumes that computing power is being stolen. Otherwise a botnet is just called distributed computing. A virus is always called a virus whether it steals computing power or not - it is assumed that an infecting virus will always be malicious because it is stealing power at the very least. The definition of virus has nothing to do with malware, whereas the definition of botnet seems to be "malicious distributed computing network".
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Mar 2010 20:24 From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message | news:hmpr0601rq6(a)news3.newsguy.com... >> Like there is no benevolent virus, there is no benevolent botnet. | This assumes that computing power is being stolen. Otherwise a botnet is | just called distributed computing. A virus is always called a virus | whether it steals computing power or not - it is assumed that an | infecting virus will always be malicious because it is stealing power at | the very least. The definition of virus has nothing to do with malware, | whereas the definition of botnet seems to be "malicious distributed | computing network". FTR wins the prize. I figured you would understand as you had mentioned the SET(a)Home project. Compare D-Computing vs. Botnet and what constraints are there on the C2 mechanism ? -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: FromTheRafters on 5 Mar 2010 21:19
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:hmsatc0jkj(a)news3.newsguy.com... > From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> > > | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message > | news:hmpr0601rq6(a)news3.newsguy.com... > >>> Like there is no benevolent virus, there is no benevolent botnet. > > | This assumes that computing power is being stolen. Otherwise a > botnet is > | just called distributed computing. A virus is always called a virus > | whether it steals computing power or not - it is assumed that an > | infecting virus will always be malicious because it is stealing > power at > | the very least. The definition of virus has nothing to do with > malware, > | whereas the definition of botnet seems to be "malicious distributed > | computing network". > > > FTR wins the prize. > > I figured you would understand as you had mentioned the SET(a)Home > project. This site and Wikipedia both mention in passing that most times the term 'botnet' refers to the malicious ones. http://www.topbits.com/botnet.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet > Compare D-Computing vs. Botnet and what constraints are there on the > C2 mechanism ? Will do, but not just now. Just as a disk copying program (xcopy?) was a virus, Pluto was a planet. Through no fault of their own, no change on their part, they just lose status when the entire class gets redefined. :oD |