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From: Matt Kruse on 18 Jun 2010 10:13 On Jun 17, 4:19 pm, Tim Streater <timstrea...(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > To me, JavaScript is a simple enough language that I have no > problems using it. Perhaps you just haven't been exposed to all the cross-browser issues yet? There are tons of quirks, bugs, non-standard behaviors, etc that you must deal with if you write cross-browser scripts for the web, where just about any browser may be used. > But then I'm a programmer. Aren't most of us here? I've been using javascript since the day it was released to the public. It still frustrates me sometimes. The browser implementations, at least. Not so much the language itself. > I've had a brief look at JScript, looks harder than JavaScript to me. Hmmm, I'm not sure what this statement really means. Matt Kruse
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 18 Jun 2010 10:50 Matt Kruse wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Matt is still not getting that (JS) libraries as a concept are not >> the issue, but the people writing them. > > Umm, that's not at all what the mantra has been in here for years. > [...] Yes, it has, and it has been pointed out to you before, even in this thread. Unfortunately, you have not been paying attention. HTH PointedEars -- Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript. -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk>
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 18 Jun 2010 10:51 Matt Kruse wrote: > Tim Streater wrote: >> To me, JavaScript is a simple enough language that I have no >> problems using it. > > Perhaps you just haven't been exposed to all the cross-browser issues > yet? There are tons of quirks, bugs, non-standard behaviors, etc that > you must deal with if you write cross-browser scripts for the web, > where just about any browser may be used. Cross-browser issues have nothing to do with the programming language. PointedEars -- Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are positively harmful for cross-browser scripting. -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk> (2004)
From: Matt Kruse on 18 Jun 2010 11:05 On Jun 18, 9:51 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...(a)web.de> wrote: > Matt Kruse wrote: > > Perhaps you just haven't been exposed to all the cross-browser issues > > yet? There are tons of quirks, bugs, non-standard behaviors, etc that > > you must deal with if you write cross-browser scripts for the web, > > where just about any browser may be used. > Cross-browser issues have nothing to do with the programming language. Duh. But the discussion is about general-purpose libraries, whose main purpose is to smooth over cross-browser issues and add functionality for web scripting. Matt Kruse
From: Johannes Baagoe on 18 Jun 2010 11:06
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn : > Matt is still not getting that (JS) libraries as a concept are not the > issue, but the people writing them. That, exactly, is what bothers me in those discussions : the issue seems to be *the people* writing those libraries. Technical objections alone would hardly justify personal smears. -- Johannes |