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From: louise on 9 Aug 2010 02:55 Does anyone know whether Microsoft will continue to have newsgroups for Office 2010? My news server, news.individual.net doesn't seem to be showing any microsoft.public.office2010 of any of the programs. Are they available on a different server? Thanks. Louise
From: barb bowman on 9 Aug 2010 04:35 Microsoft will never initiate another new NNTP newsgroup. MS has pronounced NNTP dead. Go to http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ and download and install V40 of the Community Bridge. You will be able to use the Technet Office 2010 forums with your news client. On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:55:55 -0400, louise <louise(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Does anyone know whether Microsoft will continue to have >newsgroups for Office 2010? > >My news server, news.individual.net doesn't seem to be >showing any microsoft.public.office2010 of any of the programs. > >Are they available on a different server? > >Thanks. > >Louise Barb Bowman MS-MVP http://www.digitalmediaphile.com http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
From: R. C. White on 9 Aug 2010 12:50 Hi, Louise. As Barb said - and you apparently know already - Microsoft is shutting down all the Microsoft public newsgroups and will close the msnews.microsoft.com server by October. Many thousands of non-MS Usenet news servers around the world have always mirrored these NGs and many will probably continue some of them so long as we users keep posting in them. My ISP's news server (Giganews, I think) still lists hundreds of NGs with "office" in their names, including about 40 microsoft.public.office.* groups in English and many in other languages. However, when I tried to have a look at a couple of them this morning, I got tangled in WLMail's message-handling system :>( When I went to microsoft.public.office, I got about 20,000 messages, but they were all dated 2003 to 2005, I think, so I unsubscribed. This little exercise took me several minutes because of the way that WLM insists on downloading all the messages before it will show me one. (Part of the problem, of course, is my own settings in Tools| Options | Read.) Then I got the bright idea to skip "office" and go to "excel". The microsoft.public.excel NG has over 150,000 messages and WLM wanted to download them ALL - and wouldn't let me abort the process, so I wound up tangled in several attempts to kill the process, even with Windows Task Manager. With a few extraneous interruptions taking me away from the computer for a while, it took me an hour or more to get back on track - and I'm NOT going to try to have another look into that m.p.excel NG today! But, so far as I could determine, those messages go back to 2003 but peter out in about June 2010, with only a handful of messages after that. My conclusion is that, for all practical purposes, that NG is now dead and useless -unless you want to collect the old posts for your archives. And a search for any NGs with "office" and "2010" in their names got NO hits. I don't like using Forums, but that seems the only way forward, so our best course is to take Barb's advice. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "louise" wrote in message news:8c9n3tFl2iU1(a)mid.individual.net... Does anyone know whether Microsoft will continue to have newsgroups for Office 2010? My news server, news.individual.net doesn't seem to be showing any microsoft.public.office2010 of any of the programs. Are they available on a different server? Thanks. Louise
From: henry markov on 9 Aug 2010 14:00 Barb, I think you have it exactly right when you say "MS has pronounced ..." MS has never felt an obligation for consensus or common purpose; their only interest is to maximize their power and profit. For myself, I hate to see them use their power to try to kill off newsgroups which I have been using for more than 26 years and have always found to be the single best resource that the Internet provides. HM "barb bowman" <digitalmediaphile(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:o9fv56p37r6l2k8bcmhne9ibklrnjeedn4(a)4ax.com... > Microsoft will never initiate another new NNTP newsgroup. MS has > pronounced NNTP > dead. > > Go to http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ and download and install V40 of > the > Community Bridge. You will be able to use the Technet Office 2010 forums > with > your news client. > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:55:55 -0400, louise <louise(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>Does anyone know whether Microsoft will continue to have >>newsgroups for Office 2010? >> >>My news server, news.individual.net doesn't seem to be >>showing any microsoft.public.office2010 of any of the programs. >> >>Are they available on a different server? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Louise > Barb Bowman > MS-MVP > http://www.digitalmediaphile.com > http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
From: KCB on 9 Aug 2010 20:45
"henry markov" <hm(a)noplace.net> wrote in message news:eGyJMz#NLHA.3732(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Barb, > I think you have it exactly right when you say "MS has pronounced ..." MS > has never felt an obligation for consensus or common purpose; their only > interest is to maximize their power and profit. For myself, I hate to see > them use their power to try to kill off newsgroups which I have been using > for more than 26 years and have always found to be the single best > resource that the Internet provides. > > HM Henry, corporations exist to make money. That is their purpose for being. As far as the newsgroups, they will no longer be hosting any on Microsoft servers. Many of the Microsoft newsgroups are still available on other news servers. |