From: pjp on

"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> You can download Any Video Converter (which is a freebie) from several
> sites, but I'd be surprised if SoundForge has anything to do with it.

U R right of course, Sourceforge (think that's it?) is what I meant oops :(

>
> pjp wrote:
>> Any Video Converter (Soundforge I do believe has it) converts just about
>> any
>> format to any other. Convert it to what you're used to and proceed as
>> normal.
>>
>> "Spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i39o4a$7i1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Just found that I can't import mp4 files into Windows Movie Maker.
>>>
>>> Can someone point me at an update for this: or do I have to use a
>>> different prog?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> S
>
>


From: VanguardLH on
Spamlet wrote:

> Just found that I can't import mp4 files into Windows Movie Maker.
>
> Can someone point me at an update for this: or do I have to use a different
> prog?
>
> Cheers,
> S

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316992
"Windows Media Player does not support the playback of the .mp4 file
format. You can play back .mp4 media files in Windows Media Player when
you install DirectShow-compatible MPEG-4 decoder packs."

That KB article mentions the Envivio TV MPEG-4 decoder. I had that at
one time (it's probably on a CD in storage somewhere). It was free at
one time but no longer.

You'll need to install an MPEG-4 decoder that WMP can use. I suppose
the K-Lite pac from freecodec.com would work; else, get the FFDshow
decoder from there.
From: Greg Russell on
In news:i3b1ia$chd$1(a)news.albasani.net,
VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> typed:

>> Just found that I can't import mp4 files into Windows Movie Maker.
....
> "Windows Media Player does not support the playback of the .mp4 file
> format. ..."

<sigh> WMM != WMP; "Lerning 2 rede is gud!"


From: VanguardLH on
Greg Russell wrote:

> VanguardLH typed:
>
>>> Just found that I can't import mp4 files into Windows Movie Maker.
>
>> "Windows Media Player does not support the playback of the .mp4 file
>> format. ..."
>
> <sigh> WMM != WMP; "Lerning 2 rede is gud!"

WMM can decompress (for import) the same file formats that WMP can open.
However, I thought that have the MPEG-4 codec (to decompress) would
suffice to allow import of .mp4 into WMM. Guess not according to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Movie_Maker
Importing of other container formats such as MP4/3GP, FLV and MOV, MIDI,
AIFF, AAC and SWF are not supported even if the necessary DirectShow
decoders are installed.

So while WMP can utilize an MPEG-4 decompressor, WMM cannot. However,
since the OP wants to work with .mp4 files, they'll probably need to get
the MPEG-4 codec anyway for playback in other viewer apps (unless those
viewer apps include that codec in their install which then means other
viewer apps can use it as the handler/decompressor for that media type).

FormatFactory is handy for file conversions and is free (I believe it
uses the ffdshow codec for MPEG-4 conversion that I mentioned getting
standalone at the freecodec site). The OP, for example, could convert
the .mp4 file to a .wmv or .avi file for import into WMM. I've heard of
but not used MP4cam2AVI (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4cam2avi/).
There are lots of free filetype converters available.

As a side topic, the OP might want to install the next version of WMM:

Windows Movie Maker 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx

MM1 versus MM2
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Windows_Movie_Maker_1_versus_2.aspx
From: Spamlet on

"VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message
news:i3c636$3ud$1(a)news.albasani.net...
> Greg Russell wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH typed:
>>
>>>> Just found that I can't import mp4 files into Windows Movie Maker.
>>
>>> "Windows Media Player does not support the playback of the .mp4 file
>>> format. ..."
>>
>> <sigh> WMM != WMP; "Lerning 2 rede is gud!"
>
> WMM can decompress (for import) the same file formats that WMP can open.
> However, I thought that have the MPEG-4 codec (to decompress) would
> suffice to allow import of .mp4 into WMM. Guess not according to:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Movie_Maker
> Importing of other container formats such as MP4/3GP, FLV and MOV, MIDI,
> AIFF, AAC and SWF are not supported even if the necessary DirectShow
> decoders are installed.
>
> So while WMP can utilize an MPEG-4 decompressor, WMM cannot. However,
> since the OP wants to work with .mp4 files, they'll probably need to get
> the MPEG-4 codec anyway for playback in other viewer apps (unless those
> viewer apps include that codec in their install which then means other
> viewer apps can use it as the handler/decompressor for that media type).
>
> FormatFactory is handy for file conversions and is free (I believe it
> uses the ffdshow codec for MPEG-4 conversion that I mentioned getting
> standalone at the freecodec site). The OP, for example, could convert
> the .mp4 file to a .wmv or .avi file for import into WMM. I've heard of
> but not used MP4cam2AVI (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4cam2avi/).
> There are lots of free filetype converters available.
>
> As a side topic, the OP might want to install the next version of WMM:
>
> Windows Movie Maker 2
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx
>
> MM1 versus MM2
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Windows_Movie_Maker_1_versus_2.aspx


Thanks to all for the tips. I thought I had posted back on this yesterday,
but looks like I slipped up. Apols.

It was the fact that WMP did play the MP4s that made me surprised when WMM
would not accept them, and hence think there would be an update. The point
being, I didn't want to install any unnecessary extra software on a borrowed
laptop. As far as I can see from the Wiki, and other googling, no version of
WMM will take MP4s. I got around it by letting the camera software convert
to wmv first. then resaving it at a lower bitrate in WMM.

Still seems silly that XP should have come with playing and editing software
that weren't updated to handle similar packages.

Cheers,
S