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From: LVTravel on 8 Apr 2010 22:32


"JD" <JD(a)example.invalid> wrote in message
news:#7cwXj11KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> LVTravel wrote:
>>
>>
>> "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:u44EVit1KHA.6104(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
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>>>
>>> "JD" <JD(a)example.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:Oz7zrEs1KHA.5328(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> ggull wrote:
>>>>> I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've
>>>>> got some
>>>>> old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some
>>>>> old
>>>>> copy protected games it might be fun to play.
>>>>>
>>>>> But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB,
>>>>> 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.)
>>>>> or would it be easy to cobble something like that together?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what
>>>> you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you
>>>> might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables
>>>> to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JD..
>>>
>>> The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in
>>> the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and
>>> electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy
>>> drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies.
>>
>> OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive
>> ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics
>> in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post
>> before sending.
>
> My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to
> answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-)
>
> I am glad you cleared that up.
>
> Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the
> USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be
> compatable?
>
> May be moot since the OP hasn't replied.
>
> --
> JD..

There is two problems with that scenario.

One is the size factor. Most USB floppy drives are in cases that just fit
the 3.5 inch form factor of the drive so a 5.25 inch drive won't physically
fit.

Two, is the different physical connector for the two drives. One is a card
edge connector (for the 5.25 inch) and pins and sockets on the 3.5 inch. I
have seen one 5.25 inch drive just before they became totally unpopular that
had the same connector as the 3.5 inch drive but trying to find one of those
drives would be next to impossible. That was more than 10 years ago.

From: xerais on 12 Apr 2010 17:59

I was doing some search for a friend who needed to get data off old 5.25
disks.

I have found a solution!
Here is the product link:
http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html

Its a 5.25 controller card that plugs into the PC via USB... works on
windows and Apple.

Here is purchase link:
http://shop.deviceside.com/

I actually registered on this site just to leave the message for ya, I
found this product randomly and it is a godsend.


From: ggull on 14 Apr 2010 19:54
"Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote
> "JD" <JD(a)example.invalid> wrote
.......
>>>>> ggull wrote:
.....
>>>>>> But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say
>>>>>> USB,
>>>>>> 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.)
>>>>>> or would it be easy to cobble something like that together?
......
>> Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the
>> USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be
>> compatable?
>>
>> May be moot since the OP hasn't replied.
>>
>> --
>> JD..
>
> An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer
> with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly
> enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware
> somewhere.

Thanks for the ideas.
JD, sorry I was away for a while. Sure didn't seem like a week.

Anthony's suggestion seems like it's likely the simplest. I did have
someone who was going to give me their dual 5.25 / 3.5 inch machine when
they upgraded, but they forgot and just tossed it. I'll have to try
Freecycle and the MIT fleamarket, whatever it's called ... once I get rid of
one or two of MY old towers!

I see xerais also posted a link to a product that looks like a good option.


From: JD on 14 Apr 2010 23:39
ggull wrote:
> "Anthony Buckland"<anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote
>> "JD"<JD(a)example.invalid> wrote
> ......
>>>>>> ggull wrote:
> ....
>>>>>>> But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say
>>>>>>> USB,
>>>>>>> 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.)
>>>>>>> or would it be easy to cobble something like that together?
> .....
>>> Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the
>>> USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be
>>> compatable?
>>>
>>> May be moot since the OP hasn't replied.
>>>
>>> --
>>> JD..
>>
>> An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer
>> with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly
>> enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware
>> somewhere.
>
> Thanks for the ideas.
> JD, sorry I was away for a while. Sure didn't seem like a week.
>
> Anthony's suggestion seems like it's likely the simplest. I did have
> someone who was going to give me their dual 5.25 / 3.5 inch machine when
> they upgraded, but they forgot and just tossed it. I'll have to try
> Freecycle and the MIT fleamarket, whatever it's called ... once I get rid of
> one or two of MY old towers!
>
> I see xerais also posted a link to a product that looks like a good option.
>
>

Please let us know how Anthony's suggestion worked. Your problem is
rather unique since not many of us have the need to access the old 5.25
drives. But it's nice to know what works in a special situation.


--
JD..
From: Pawalleye on 15 Apr 2010 11:14
Smiles wrote:
> Good day I have been given 2000 old 5.25floppy diskswith family records
> on them with out rebuilding a W98 box is there a way to set up XP to
> read the drive
>
> thanks
Thanks for asking a very interesting question. It truly provokes a very
interesting discussion. I knew there must be a reason to keep old
computers--like the 3 I have in my workshop. :)
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