From: sobriquet on
On 22 mei, 15:45, retsu...(a)xinap.moc (Mike S.) wrote:
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> sobriquet  <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On 22 mei, 07:43, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> sobriquet wrote:
> >> > Sometimes when you've copied things from one USB drive
> >> > to another and it has completed, you can't seem to remove
> >> > the hardware safely via the icon in the system tray.
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> >> Have you tried stopping it a second time ?
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> >Yes, sometimes this works, but often I can stop it 10 times and it
> >still tells me it can't stop the drive. Of course I close all explorer
> >windows before attempting to remove the drive (as well as  all
> >programs that might be accessing data on the drive).
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> >> I do use a USB hard drive docking station for convenient overflow
> >> of the PVR and do sometimes have to stop the USB drive twice,
> >> but it always works fine the second time when the first doesnt.
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> >> I do close the explorer windows that show the drives before doing that tho.
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> >> > I suppose windows is indexing the disk or something.
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> >> Its more likely something.
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> >But what could this mysterious activity be if it's not indexing and
> >I'm sure I've closed all applications and explorer windows that I've
> >used related to accessing the contents of the drive?
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> >I'm also sure it's not some iso on the drive that I forgot to unmount
> >or something along those lines.
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> >> > Is there a way to stop this which is more convenient than rebooting
> >the computer?
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> >> Yes, I find that closing the explorer windows that use the drive you want to
> >> remove and then stopping the drive a second time if necessary always works.
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> >> > At first I thought the solution was to disable indexing somehow,
> >> > by unchecking the box for "index this station for faster searching"
> >> > in the properties for the drive, but it seems this must be done for
> >> > every drive you connect and it results in windows going through
> >> > the entire drive doing some sort of modification and I very much
> >> > dislike the idea of windows going over the entire contents of the
> >> > drive to make modifications.
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> >> I never find that to be a problem and havent stopped indexing on those drives.
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> When this happens I start up OpenFilesView from NirSoft and see what's
> accessing the drive. Usually it's explorer.exe; so I use the utility to
> close the file handle that explorer has opened, and then it ejects without
> a complaint.

One method I used sometimes was to kill the explorer process via the
task manager and restart it, that sometimes would fix the problem, but
unfortunately it can cause icons to disappear from the systemtray and
that is a cumbersome problem (because the only way to recover the
icons is to remove them from the task manager in order to restart them
so they icons come back).

The wonderful world of windows.. *sigh*
From: Rod Speed on
sobriquet wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote
>> sobriquet wrote

>>> Sometimes when you've copied things from one USB drive
>>> to another and it has completed, you can't seem to remove
>>> the hardware safely via the icon in the system tray.

>> Have you tried stopping it a second time ?

> Yes, sometimes this works, but often I can stop it 10 times and it
> still tells me it can't stop the drive. Of course I close all explorer
> windows before attempting to remove the drive (as well as all
> programs that might be accessing data on the drive).

OK.

>> I do use a USB hard drive docking station for convenient overflow
>> of the PVR and do sometimes have to stop the USB drive twice,
>> but it always works fine the second time when the first doesnt.

>> I do close the explorer windows that show the drives before doing that tho.

>>> I suppose windows is indexing the disk or something.

>> Its more likely something.

> But what could this mysterious activity be if it's not indexing
> and I'm sure I've closed all applications and explorer windows
> that I've used related to accessing the contents of the drive?

Looks like something specific to the hardware or something given that
I never see that effect and havent turned anything like indexing off.

> I'm also sure it's not some iso on the drive that I
> forgot to unmount or something along those lines.

OK, it wasnt clear that you were aware of that sort of thing.

>>> Is there a way to stop this which is more convenient than rebooting the computer?

>> Yes, I find that closing the explorer windows that use the drive you
>> want to remove and then stopping the drive a second time if
>> necessary always works.

>>> At first I thought the solution was to disable indexing somehow,
>>> by unchecking the box for "index this station for faster searching"
>>> in the properties for the drive, but it seems this must be done for
>>> every drive you connect and it results in windows going through
>>> the entire drive doing some sort of modification and I very much
>>> dislike the idea of windows going over the entire contents of the
>>> drive to make modifications.

>> I never find that to be a problem and havent stopped indexing on those drives.