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From: andym21 on 17 Feb 2010 06:44
Hi thanks for the ideas so far...i tried to re-install the updater stuff
yesterday, not the actual updates...if any are there.
It seems winupdate is not available at the moment, as i can get anywhere
else, but not that page. Anyone else having hassle with win7 at the mo?

Cheers Andy

"MowGreen" wrote:

>
> andym21 wrote:
> > Hi have just got a new pc with win 7 premium, managed to get updates last
> > weekend, but now keep getting error 80070005. I`ve tried to re-install win
> > update, but it just comes back with an unrecoverable error...no codes tho.
> > Ant suggestions?
>
> Red or black, that's the only ants I'm aware of.
>
> 80070005 is an Access Denied error that is most likely stemming from:
>
> a. Security software
> b. Incorrectly applied Permissions or updating from a User Account that
> does not have sufficient Permissions.
> c. A previous release of the Windows Update Agent is installed that is
> affecting Permissions.
> c. Malware
>
> > I`ve tried to re-install win update, but it just comes back with an unrecoverable error.
>
> To be clear here, you tried to reinstall the updating components or the
> updates that failed to install ?
> Though I doubt it, perhaps you tried to 'reset' the updating components
> using this KB ?: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058
> That page states that it's not for Win 7. As to why, I don't know as it
> works for Vista.
>
> Strongly suggest that you download and *save* the latest release of the
> Windows Update Agent (WUA) from the links on this page:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949104
>
> Be sure to download the WUA that matches the architecture of the system.
> eg. x86, 32 bit or x64, 64 bit. That information is readily available by
> opening System in Control Panel under 'System', next to 'System type'
>
> Once the download completes configure Windows 7 to clean boot:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
>
> Restart the system to the clean boot state.
> Stop the Windows Update and BITS service, if started.
> You'll need to open the Services console by clicking the Start orb and
> typing services.msc in the Search field.
> Click on services.msc under Programs and agree to the UAC prompt.
> Locate Background Intelligent Background Service (BITS) and the Windows
> Update services and Stop them for now.
> DO NOT DISABLE either of them for Startup type.
> For Startup type, BITS should be set to Manual, Windows Update to
> Automatic (Delayed Start)
> If the above are the Startup types, you can close the Services console now.
>
> *Right* click the downloaded and saved WUA and choose 'Run as
> administrator'; follow the UAC prompts to allow it to run Elevated.
> Restart to the *same clean boot state* after it's installed.
>
> Now see if the system can update.
> If yes, then Security software was interfering with updating.
> If not, then either Security software has changed the Default
> Permissions or, malware may have.
>
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> banthecheck.com
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
> .
>
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 17 Feb 2010 13:34
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)?

Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
it)?



andym21 wrote:
> Hi thanks for the ideas so far...i tried to re-install the updater stuff
> yesterday, not the actual updates...if any are there.
> It seems winupdate is not available at the moment, as i can get anywhere
> else, but not that page. Anyone else having hassle with win7 at the mo?
>
> Cheers Andy
>
> "MowGreen" wrote:
>
>>
>> andym21 wrote:
>>> Hi have just got a new pc with win 7 premium, managed to get updates
>>> last
>>> weekend, but now keep getting error 80070005. I`ve tried to re-install
>>> win
>>> update, but it just comes back with an unrecoverable error...no codes
>>> tho.
>>> Ant suggestions?
>>
>> Red or black, that's the only ants I'm aware of.
>>
>> 80070005 is an Access Denied error that is most likely stemming from:
>>
>> a. Security software
>> b. Incorrectly applied Permissions or updating from a User Account that
>> does not have sufficient Permissions.
>> c. A previous release of the Windows Update Agent is installed that is
>> affecting Permissions.
>> c. Malware
>>
>>> I`ve tried to re-install win update, but it just comes back with an
>>> unrecoverable error.
>>
>> To be clear here, you tried to reinstall the updating components or the
>> updates that failed to install ?
>> Though I doubt it, perhaps you tried to 'reset' the updating components
>> using this KB ?: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058
>> That page states that it's not for Win 7. As to why, I don't know as it
>> works for Vista.
>>
>> Strongly suggest that you download and *save* the latest release of the
>> Windows Update Agent (WUA) from the links on this page:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949104
>>
>> Be sure to download the WUA that matches the architecture of the system.
>> eg. x86, 32 bit or x64, 64 bit. That information is readily available by
>> opening System in Control Panel under 'System', next to 'System type'
>>
>> Once the download completes configure Windows 7 to clean boot:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
>>
>> Restart the system to the clean boot state.
>> Stop the Windows Update and BITS service, if started.
>> You'll need to open the Services console by clicking the Start orb and
>> typing services.msc in the Search field.
>> Click on services.msc under Programs and agree to the UAC prompt.
>> Locate Background Intelligent Background Service (BITS) and the Windows
>> Update services and Stop them for now.
>> DO NOT DISABLE either of them for Startup type.
>> For Startup type, BITS should be set to Manual, Windows Update to
>> Automatic (Delayed Start)
>> If the above are the Startup types, you can close the Services console
>> now.
>>
>> *Right* click the downloaded and saved WUA and choose 'Run as
>> administrator'; follow the UAC prompts to allow it to run Elevated.
>> Restart to the *same clean boot state* after it's installed.
>>
>> Now see if the system can update.
>> If yes, then Security software was interfering with updating.
>> If not, then either Security software has changed the Default
>> Permissions or, malware may have.
>>
>>
>> MowGreen
>> ================
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ================
>>
>> banthecheck.com
>> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
>> .

From: MowGreen on 17 Feb 2010 15:33
Ǝиçεl wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> My bad. I should have read the section
> “View products that this article applies to”. kb/313222
>
>
> Next time I will ask them, they frequently shop at the 7 - 11
>
>
>
>
> Ǝиçεl
> ◕‿◕
> -=-
>


ROTFLMAO ... " shop at the 7 - 11 "
Good one, Engel.


MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
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