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From: Charlie Gibbs on 27 Jun 2010 23:59 Recently some cow orkers talked me into installing Ubuntu on a new box. (I've been a Slackware fan from the beginning.) I was quite impressed. The installation was considerably simpler than Slackware - and _much_ easier than Windows - while being prettier than either. Upgrading the installation to 10.4 (the install CD was version 9.1) via the Internet was just as easy (although slow - if I had it to do over I would download the latest install disk image before doing anything). Finding and installing new packages was a snap. At least until I tried to install xmms. This is one of those programs that, as the saying goes, I'll give up when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. All I want to do is play MP3 files, without having to register them with a package, build databases, or whatever. I want to pick files by name, not depend on ID3 tags which may or may not be accurate or even present. And here is where the problems began. apt-get has never heard of xmms. Yes, I know it's an old program, but Linux is famous for not dropping support for a program just because it hasn't been updated for a while. I tried building xmms from the same tarball I used on my original Slackware installation, and the configure script complained about a missing glibc. In fact, anything involving GTK seems to be a non-starter under Ubuntu. In desperation, I started copying installed modules across from my Slackware box directly into /usr/bin on the Ubuntu box. I finally managed to get xmms to come up, but it couldn't select MP3 files, even though I could bring up a list of the files. Worse still, other programs stopped working. Yes, I had hacked on the box so hard that I broke it. Eventually I tried shutting down - and even that wouldn't work. After hitting the power switch I tried re-booting - and that hung in the initlal Ubuntu splash screen. I realized that as nice as Ubuntu is, it was time to get my Slack back. I wiped and repartitioned the disk, did a full Slackware 12.2 install, and just for the hell of it I opened an xterm window and typed "xmms" without trying to install it - and it came up! I find it ironic that a package that would not even install on Ubuntu is included as standard on a Slackware installation. Has anyone ever gotten xmms to run under Ubuntu? -- /~\ cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
From: John Hasler on 27 Jun 2010 23:35 Charlie Gibbs writes: > apt-get has never heard of xmms. "apt-cache search xmms" gets 106 hits on Debian/Sid. > I tried building xmms from the same tarball I used on my original > Slackware installation... Why didn't you download the upstream source? That would not have been configured for Slackware. > In desperation, I started copying installed modules across from my > Slackware box directly into /usr/bin on the Ubuntu box. That was remarkably stupid. > Has anyone ever gotten xmms to run under Ubuntu? Xmms2 works fine on Debian. I expect it works fine on Ubuntu as well. It's probably part of the default install. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
From: The Natural Philosopher on 28 Jun 2010 00:21 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Recently some cow orkers talked me into installing Ubuntu on a new box. > (I've been a Slackware fan from the beginning.) I was quite impressed. > The installation was considerably simpler than Slackware - and _much_ > easier than Windows - while being prettier than either. Upgrading > the installation to 10.4 (the install CD was version 9.1) via the > Internet was just as easy (although slow - if I had it to do over > I would download the latest install disk image before doing anything). > > Finding and installing new packages was a snap. At least until I > tried to install xmms. This is one of those programs that, as the > saying goes, I'll give up when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. > All I want to do is play MP3 files, without having to register them > with a package, build databases, or whatever. I want to pick files > by name, not depend on ID3 tags which may or may not be accurate or > even present. > > And here is where the problems began. apt-get has never heard of > xmms. Yes, I know it's an old program, but Linux is famous for not > dropping support for a program just because it hasn't been updated > for a while. I tried building xmms from the same tarball I used > on my original Slackware installation, and the configure script > complained about a missing glibc. In fact, anything involving GTK > seems to be a non-starter under Ubuntu. In desperation, I started > copying installed modules across from my Slackware box directly > into /usr/bin on the Ubuntu box. I finally managed to get xmms > to come up, but it couldn't select MP3 files, even though I could > bring up a list of the files. > > Worse still, other programs stopped working. Yes, I had hacked on > the box so hard that I broke it. Eventually I tried shutting down - > and even that wouldn't work. After hitting the power switch I tried > re-booting - and that hung in the initlal Ubuntu splash screen. > > I realized that as nice as Ubuntu is, it was time to get my Slack back. > I wiped and repartitioned the disk, did a full Slackware 12.2 install, > and just for the hell of it I opened an xterm window and typed "xmms" > without trying to install it - and it came up! > > I find it ironic that a package that would not even install on > Ubuntu is included as standard on a Slackware installation. > > Has anyone ever gotten xmms to run under Ubuntu? > apt-get xmms2 ?
From: mjt on 28 Jun 2010 00:49 On 27 Jun 10 19:59:08 -0800 "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > I realized that as nice as Ubuntu is, it was time to get my Slack back. > I wiped and repartitioned the disk, did a full Slackware 12.2 install, > and just for the hell of it I opened an xterm window and typed "xmms" > without trying to install it - and it came up! > > I find it ironic that a package that would not even install on > Ubuntu is included as standard on a Slackware installation. > > Has anyone ever gotten xmms to run under Ubuntu? I've been able to get xmms2 to install/run on about 10 distros. Maybe you're after "xmms2" ... I'm sure you're aware "xmms" is from 2007. -- Cauliflower is nothing but Cabbage with a College Education. -- Mark Twain <<< Remove YOURSHOES to email me >>>
From: Denis McMahon on 28 Jun 2010 02:08
On 28/06/10 04:35, John Hasler wrote: >> Has anyone ever gotten xmms to run under Ubuntu? > > Xmms2 works fine on Debian. I expect it works fine on Ubuntu as well. > It's probably part of the default install. Apt-cache search xmms finds xmms2 on ubuntu 10.4, and so does opening synaptic, clicking search, and looking for xmms2. Installing xmms2 with all plugins as I type this ..... and ... having figured out that I need to add a gui (I chose promoe) and how to tell the daemon to use alsa instead of pulseaudio (because pulseaudio does not get on with my system and never has), it seems to be working just fine. Rgds Denis McMahon |