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From: Richard B. Gilbert on 30 Jul 2010 11:00 Doug McIntyre wrote: > dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >> This sun-service guy I was talking to told me that if I >> wanted to add more disk, I had to get it from Sun ($$$!), >> not straight from Seagate, say. > > This is true for almost all Enterprise equipment vendors. > > If you want to add disks to EMC, NetApp, Dell, HP, IBM, etc. etc. You > must buy their own labeled disks. In many cases, the vendor writes > their own custom firmware for the disk, and their controllers look for > that firmware and won't work without it. > > Sun has been one of the most lenient about it, letting you add just > about any disk, its only the support end that would refuse to support > you when you bypass them. > > In the past, for Sun and Dell, its been more about its just about > impossible to buy the proper sleds directly from them, so you'd have > to go to 3rd party resellers that may have some stockpiled. If they > had just come out with a new sled design, then it'd be almost > impossible to get it without buying the drives direct. But once its > been in use for some time, then they tend to be easier to get 3rd hand. > > Now, Dell has gone the route of custom firmware as well for their > higher end controllers, whereas EMC and NetApp have required custom > firmware for just about forever. > > Memory, SFPs/GBICs, etc. etc. Almost all equipment vendors want to > lock you in. This is scarcely news! It has been going on for at least the last forty years and probably longer.
From: Thad Floryan on 30 Jul 2010 12:04
On 7/30/2010 8:00 AM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > Doug McIntyre wrote: >> dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >>> This sun-service guy I was talking to told me that if I >>> wanted to add more disk, I had to get it from Sun ($$$!), >>> not straight from Seagate, say. >> >> This is true for almost all Enterprise equipment vendors. >> [...] >> Memory, SFPs/GBICs, etc. etc. Almost all equipment vendors want to >> lock you in. > > This is scarcely news! It has been going on for at least the last forty > years and probably longer. Definitely longer. I recall DEC's "connector conspiracy" as a real PITA. For every new system, DEC would patent a new connector(s) so no one could produce 3rd-party accessories. Additional lockins here: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in> |