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From: David Robinow on 9 Feb 2010 17:42 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning <simon(a)brunningonline.net> wrote: > On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern <robert.kern(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>> If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the >>> alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the stdlib, I >>> think. >> >> Why? > > I agree. Why wait? Put them in the stdlib now! > > -- > Cheers, > Simon B. Can we please stop this?
From: Alf P. Steinbach on 9 Feb 2010 18:09 * David Robinow: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning <simon(a)brunningonline.net> wrote: >> On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern <robert.kern(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>>> If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the >>>> alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the stdlib, I >>>> think. >>> Why? >> I agree. Why wait? Put them in the stdlib now! >> > Can we please stop this? I agree. I haven't looked at the code but the functionality that's listed is useful, e.g. in a Usenet client, and it's fun to play around with for a beginner. Also, for example, Christian Heimes wrote else-thread: �Your work should be interesting for everybody who has read Simon Sing's "The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum"� (and I for one have that book). Cheers, - Alf
From: Stef Mientki on 9 Feb 2010 18:27 On 10-02-2010 00:09, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * David Robinow: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning >> <simon(a)brunningonline.net> wrote: >>> On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern <robert.kern(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>>>> If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the >>>>> alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the stdlib, I >>>>> think. >>>> Why? >>> I agree. Why wait? Put them in the stdlib now! >>> >> Can we please stop this? > > I agree. > sorry I don't, unless Python is only meant for the very well educated people in encryption. > I haven't looked at the code but the functionality that's listed is > useful, e.g. in a Usenet client, and it's fun to play around with for > a beginner. I neither did look at the code, but as a beginner with just 3 years of experience in Python, I've tried several scrambling libs, for a quick and dirty use. All were much too difficult, so I made my own xor-something. Coming from Delphi, a scrambling lib is working is less than 10 minutes, without the need of any knowledge of encryption. I prefer Python over Delphi, but some things are made very complex in Python. cheers, Stef > > Also, for example, Christian Heimes wrote else-thread: �Your work > should be interesting for everybody who has read Simon Sing's "The > Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum"� (and > I for one have that book). > > > Cheers, > > - Alf
From: rantingrick on 9 Feb 2010 18:55 On Feb 9, 7:21 am, Roy Smith <r...(a)panix.com> wrote: > In article <00fa27a3$0$15628$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano <st...(a)REMOVE-THIS-cybersource.com.au> wrote: [..] > No pig latin? Wait a minute guys, Stevens a well known prankster and comic relief clown around here, I think he's just shining us all on! ;o)
From: Gabriel Genellina on 9 Feb 2010 19:29
En Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:27:13 -0300, Stef Mientki <stef.mientki(a)gmail.com> escribi�: > On 10-02-2010 00:09, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >> * David Robinow: >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning >>> <simon(a)brunningonline.net> wrote: >>>> On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern <robert.kern(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>>>>> If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the >>>>>> alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the stdlib, I >>>>>> think. >>>>> Why? >>>> I agree. Why wait? Put them in the stdlib now! >>> Can we please stop this? >> I agree. >> > sorry I don't, > unless Python is only meant for the very well educated people in > encryption. > >> I haven't looked at the code but the functionality that's listed is >> useful, e.g. in a Usenet client, and it's fun to play around with for a >> beginner. > I neither did look at the code, > but as a beginner with just 3 years of experience in Python, > I've tried several scrambling libs, for a quick and dirty use. > All were much too difficult, so I made my own xor-something. > Coming from Delphi, a scrambling lib is working is less than 10 minutes, > without the need of any knowledge of encryption. > I prefer Python over Delphi, but some things are made very complex in > Python. Are you sure? >>> def xor(s, key): .... return ''.join(chr(ord(c)^key) for c in s) .... >>> txt = "Hello world!" >>> xor(txt, 123) '3\x1e\x17\x17\x14[\x0c\x14\t\x17\x1fZ' >>> xor(_, 123) 'Hello world!' The Delphi code would be certainly longer than that, some variation of: function encrypt_xor(const s: string; key: integer); var i: integer; begin SetLength(Result, length(s)); for i:=1 to length(s) do begin Result[i] := chr(ord(s[i]) xor key); end; end; (untested) -- Gabriel Genellina |