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From: David Brown on 26 Feb 2010 05:19
On 25/02/2010 15:43, Symon wrote:
> On 2/25/2010 12:56 PM, rickman wrote:
>>
>> The other method can only be done if Altera has not write or read
>> protected their data sheets. You can use a PDF editing tool to
>> actually rotate the page in the document and then save it so it will
>> be forever fixed.
>
> Actually, that provoked me. You need Acrobat professional. Which isn't
> free.
>

Since you already use Foxit for reading, you should probably look at
Foxit Editor rather than Acrobat Writer. I've not used it myself, but
considering how much better Foxit reader is than Acrobat reader, I'd
look there first.

pdfedit is an alternative for Linux, but it's a bit slow, and it Foxit
has trouble reading the files it produces (apparently it's a bug in
Foxit, not pdfedit).


>
> File-> Create PDF -> from file
>
> Document -> Rotate Pages ->
> Counterclockwise 90 degrees
> Landscape pages
>
> Lovely. Maybe I will use their parts after all. It's still dumb the way
> they publish the PDFs.
>
> Syms.

From: Symon on 26 Feb 2010 05:38
On 2/26/2010 9:43 AM, David Brown wrote:

> Foxit. But I am totally failing to replicate these viewing problems.
>

Hi David,

I don't like to see failure.

I have Foxit 3.1.4.1125, which seems quite up-to-date.

I have set the default to show the pages at their biggest, i.e. 'fit
width', because I am getting old and my eyes aren't like they used to
be. When I load :-

http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/stratix-iv/stx4_siv51001.pdf

The portrait pages in it, e.g. pg 1-1, no longer 'fit width', because
there are pages like 1-11 that, and this is my complaint, are included
in landscape mode. The reader's rotate button doesn't help, 'cos it
rotates every page. The solution is to publish documents with all pages
portrait and draw the tables across the page.

This is 'totally' driving me bonkers, and is why I keep clogging up the
useful discourse on CAF with these ridiculous posts.

If you don't see this effect, please, for God's sake, put me out of my
misery, and let me know what you did.

Thanks, Syms.

p.s. A similar thing happens in my old version 7 Adobe viewer, but only
after the viewer has 'seen' a landscape page.
From: rickman on 26 Feb 2010 05:44
On Feb 26, 5:38 am, Symon <symon_bre...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/26/2010 9:43 AM, David Brown wrote:
>
> > Foxit. But I am totally failing to replicate these viewing problems.
>
> Hi David,
>
> I don't like to see failure.
>
> I have Foxit 3.1.4.1125, which seems quite up-to-date.
>
> I have set the default to show the pages at their biggest, i.e. 'fit
> width', because I am getting old and my eyes aren't like they used to
> be. When I load :-
>
> http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/stratix-iv/stx4_siv51001.pdf
>
> The portrait pages in it, e.g. pg 1-1, no longer 'fit width', because
> there are pages like 1-11 that, and this is my complaint, are included
> in landscape mode. The reader's rotate button doesn't help, 'cos it
> rotates every page. The solution is to publish documents with all pages
> portrait and draw the tables across the page.
>
> This is 'totally' driving me bonkers, and is why I keep clogging up the
> useful discourse on CAF with these ridiculous posts.
>
> If you don't see this effect, please, for God's sake, put me out of my
> misery, and let me know what you did.
>
> Thanks, Syms.
>
> p.s. A similar thing happens in my old version 7 Adobe viewer, but only
> after the viewer has 'seen' a landscape page.

I've seen this before in Acrobat and it shows up when the document is
opened. There are settings that control the initial view and I didn't
explore how they were set, but it was due to a page being landscape
controlling the default magnification of the entire document.

Like I said before, I have my own nits to pick with data sheets and it
really does make a difference about what parts I consider. Heck,
there is an inductor company that puts everything on web pages and not
even all on one page! You have to visit multiple pages to get all the
data on their parts. Maybe they have updated by now, but have I never
used any of their parts because it was such a PITA to store the data
sheet.

Rick
From: David Brown on 26 Feb 2010 07:58
On 26/02/2010 11:38, Symon wrote:
> On 2/26/2010 9:43 AM, David Brown wrote:
>
>> Foxit. But I am totally failing to replicate these viewing problems.
>>
>
> Hi David,
>
> I don't like to see failure.
>
> I have Foxit 3.1.4.1125, which seems quite up-to-date.
>

That's what I am using too.

> I have set the default to show the pages at their biggest, i.e. 'fit
> width', because I am getting old and my eyes aren't like they used to
> be. When I load :-
>
> http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/stratix-iv/stx4_siv51001.pdf
>
> The portrait pages in it, e.g. pg 1-1, no longer 'fit width', because
> there are pages like 1-11 that, and this is my complaint, are included
> in landscape mode. The reader's rotate button doesn't help, 'cos it
> rotates every page. The solution is to publish documents with all pages
> portrait and draw the tables across the page.
>
> This is 'totally' driving me bonkers, and is why I keep clogging up the
> useful discourse on CAF with these ridiculous posts.
>

It may be off-topic for this newsgroup, but I have certainly learned
enough from your posts over the years to be happy to try to help - if I can.

> If you don't see this effect, please, for God's sake, put me out of my
> misery, and let me know what you did.
>

I've figured it out - you are using "continuous" mode, so that the pdf
reader is looking at the document as though it were one very tall page,
and thus fit-width applies to the this whole continuous page. I prefer
"single page" mode, in which fit-width (and fit-page) apply to a single
page at a time.

Hope that helps,

David.


> Thanks, Syms.
>
> p.s. A similar thing happens in my old version 7 Adobe viewer, but only
> after the viewer has 'seen' a landscape page.

From: Symon on 26 Feb 2010 08:57
On 2/26/2010 12:58 PM, David Brown wrote:
>
> I've figured it out - you are using "continuous" mode, so that the pdf
> reader is looking at the document as though it were one very tall page,
> and thus fit-width applies to the this whole continuous page. I prefer
> "single page" mode, in which fit-width (and fit-page) apply to a single
> page at a time.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> David.

David, you've solved it! I tried going into single page mode before, but
I didn't re-click the fit-width thing.
Cheers!

p.s. I still maintain Altera are wrong to have landscape pages mixed in!
I like continuous mode.
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