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From: Rob on 28 Jan 2010 04:56
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> http://www.theage.com.au/business/apple-bites-australia-for-profit-20100127-mwkn.html?comments=57#comments
>>
>>
>> The comments afterwards bear reading.
>>
>> It tends to be the usual Apple-is-God crowd versus Apple-is-the-devil
>> crowd.
>>
>> Then it devolves into an argument or discussion over US v AUS pricing
>> structures.
>>
>> One fellow gave software, and high end software as an example, with
>> something
>> like $1,500 price diff between US and AU prices.
>>
>> Then there's the usual stuff about economies of scale, lack of
>> competition and
>> so on.
>>
>> I don't understand a lot of it. Particularly from personal experience.
>> My wife
>> bought a studio microphone, a Rhode NTK valve mike. It's an Australian
>> made
>> product and is exported to the US.
>>
>> She could have purchased it cheaper from the US including shipping.
>> But because
>> it has a valve in it she was worried about it being damaged in
>> transit. So she
>> bought it locally. Plus there is the warranty thing.
>>
>> So, when an Oz made product can be bought cheaper in the US you gotta
>> wonder.
>
> You're paying GST if you buy it locally. If you import from the US,
> there's no sales tax added. Take 1/11th off the local price to see what
> it costs without tax and then compare against the US price.
>
> Other issue is volume. Supplier in the US would probably have bought at
> a higher volume than any retailer could have locally. Normally, the
> price per unit is lower if the volume amount is higher. Consider 1,000
> units against 50,000 units.
>

Cars exported to the US were cheaper tahn here.
From: Hugh Jeego on 28 Jan 2010 07:02

"Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.theage.com.au/business/apple-bites-australia-for-profit-20100127-mwkn.html?comments=57#comments
>
> The comments afterwards bear reading.
>
> It tends to be the usual Apple-is-God crowd versus Apple-is-the-devil
> crowd.
>
> Then it devolves into an argument or discussion over US v AUS pricing
> structures.
>
> One fellow gave software, and high end software as an example, with
> something
> like $1,500 price diff between US and AU prices.
>
> Then there's the usual stuff about economies of scale, lack of competition
> and
> so on.
>
> I don't understand a lot of it. Particularly from personal experience. My
> wife
> bought a studio microphone, a Rhode NTK valve mike. It's an Australian
> made
> product and is exported to the US.
>
> She could have purchased it cheaper from the US including shipping. But
> because
> it has a valve in it she was worried about it being damaged in transit. So
> she
> bought it locally. Plus there is the warranty thing.
>
> So, when an Oz made product can be bought cheaper in the US you gotta
> wonder.
>

It's the old argument that started with the old days. Once, we used to sell
our wool to Britain and they would see back at a huge increase as jumpers
and such. Made no sense because we also made them here but that is what
happened. I know that is back to front to what you say but I am pointing out
that sometimes it doesn't make sense. It is what it is for reasons we may
never know. It's like reading Catch-22 up to the last chapter and never
reading that. You never find out how that guy made a profit selling stuff to
himself at a loss!

From: Marts on 30 Jan 2010 18:23
Dr. Sir John Howard wrote...

> You're paying GST if you buy it locally. If you import from the US, there's no

And in the US they pay sales tax. Rate depends on which state you're in.

> Other issue is volume. Supplier in the US would probably have bought at a higher
> volume than any retailer could have locally. Normally, the price per unit is
> lower if the volume amount is higher. Consider 1,000 units against 50,000 units.

I understand that, but if the product is made here then they have to be shipped
there. Whereas, if bought locally shipping costs wouldn't be as great, would it?

From: Rod Speed on 30 Jan 2010 21:03
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
muzzie troll . wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> Dr. Sir John Howard wrote...
>>
>>> You're paying GST if you buy it locally. If you import from the US,
>>> there's no
>>
>> And in the US they pay sales tax. Rate depends on which state you're
>> in.
>
> Yes, I'd mentioned that in one of my posts. But the US state sales
> tax doesn't apply to exports and interstate commerce. So, you'd be
> buying it tax free if you bought from the US.
>
>>> Other issue is volume. Supplier in the US would probably have
>>> bought at a higher volume than any retailer could have locally.
>>> Normally, the price per unit is lower if the volume amount is
>>> higher. Consider 1,000 units against 50,000 units.
>>
>> I understand that, but if the product is made here then they have to
>> be shipped there. Whereas, if bought locally shipping costs wouldn't
>> be as great, would it?
>
> I don't know how much shipping is. Using FedEx and the like aren't
> cheap but shipping by sea isn't expensive.

> If they use normal postage, its dirt cheap to post from the US.

Not anymore with stuff that weighs much, even just 5lb


From: Joe on 31 Jan 2010 14:57
On 31/01/2010 12:27 PM, Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> Dr. Sir John Howard wrote...
>>
>>> You're paying GST if you buy it locally. If you import from the US,
>>> there's no
>>
>> And in the US they pay sales tax. Rate depends on which state you're in.
>
> Yes, I'd mentioned that in one of my posts. But the US state sales tax
> doesn't apply to exports and interstate commerce. So, you'd be buying it
> tax free if you bought from the US.
>
>>> Other issue is volume. Supplier in the US would probably have bought
>>> at a higher volume than any retailer could have locally. Normally,
>>> the price per unit is lower if the volume amount is higher. Consider
>>> 1,000 units against 50,000 units.
>>
>> I understand that, but if the product is made here then they have to
>> be shipped
>> there. Whereas, if bought locally shipping costs wouldn't be as great,
>> would it?
>
> I don't know how much shipping is. Using FedEx and the like aren't cheap
> but shipping by sea isn't expensive. If they use normal postage, its
> dirt cheap to post from the US.
>

But out of date by the time it arrives!
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