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From: JD on 15 May 2010 09:12
On 15/05/2010 12:32 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I have no Floppy. I only have a CD, and the Boot Priority is
> set to boot from the CD first, but this does not happen.
>
> I've got some serious issues going on here. I have no network, but the NIC
> is built into the motherboard.
>
> The CD is not recognized, but I can Eject with a right click. It shows up,
> and if empty I am prompted to load a disc. But when the disc is in, it is
> not read. I can right-click and chooes Eject, and the tray opens.
>
> I need the drivers for the motherboard, and I probably need to burn the BIOS
> in again.
>
> This is a Work in Progress.;-)
>
>


Could be a couple of things going on with the CD drive, older drives
cant read some or all copied disc's or the drive its self could be
faulty, you can check this by trying an original CD (if you have not
already) also check all the jumpers are set to cable select, CD
drives(well DVD-RW )are cheap, around �12 here so no big deal for
replacment.

Also you have made a XP slipstream disk up with all the patches &
hotfixes ? (also your serial number, regional settings and drivers if
you want to be really fancy) www.nliteos.com (Nlite)

JD
From: Jeff Strickland on 15 May 2010 11:46

"JD" <No.Reply(a)Sorry.com> wrote in message
news:4bee9d85$0$12160$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
> On 15/05/2010 12:32 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but I have no Floppy. I only have a CD, and the Boot Priority
>> is
>> set to boot from the CD first, but this does not happen.
>>
>> I've got some serious issues going on here. I have no network, but the
>> NIC
>> is built into the motherboard.
>>
>> The CD is not recognized, but I can Eject with a right click. It shows
>> up,
>> and if empty I am prompted to load a disc. But when the disc is in, it is
>> not read. I can right-click and chooes Eject, and the tray opens.
>>
>> I need the drivers for the motherboard, and I probably need to burn the
>> BIOS
>> in again.
>>
>> This is a Work in Progress.;-)
>>
>>
>
>
> Could be a couple of things going on with the CD drive, older drives cant
> read some or all copied disc's or the drive its self could be faulty, you
> can check this by trying an original CD (if you have not already) also
> check all the jumpers are set to cable select, CD drives(well DVD-RW )are
> cheap, around �12 here so no big deal for replacment.
>
> Also you have made a XP slipstream disk up with all the patches & hotfixes
> ? (also your serial number, regional settings and drivers if you want to
> be really fancy) www.nliteos.com (Nlite)
>
> JD

The CD drive does not work and there are no CD drivers. There's also no
network drivers. I went to the Website for the BIOS, but what they offer for
the Model Number that I input does not go in -- there's a report back that
the BIOS being installed is not right. There are three different machines
that come up, but none of the BIOS upgrades work.

I think I have a bad motherboard on my hands. The only way I can think of to
isolate it is to get the original CD with the drivers and stuff for it, but
I seriously do not think it is available.

I think I'll be buying a new motherboard for this one.






From: Paul on 15 May 2010 12:45
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "JD" <No.Reply(a)Sorry.com> wrote in message
> news:4bee9d85$0$12160$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>> On 15/05/2010 12:32 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> I'm sorry, but I have no Floppy. I only have a CD, and the Boot Priority
>>> is
>>> set to boot from the CD first, but this does not happen.
>>>
>>> I've got some serious issues going on here. I have no network, but the
>>> NIC
>>> is built into the motherboard.
>>>
>>> The CD is not recognized, but I can Eject with a right click. It shows
>>> up,
>>> and if empty I am prompted to load a disc. But when the disc is in, it is
>>> not read. I can right-click and chooes Eject, and the tray opens.
>>>
>>> I need the drivers for the motherboard, and I probably need to burn the
>>> BIOS
>>> in again.
>>>
>>> This is a Work in Progress.;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Could be a couple of things going on with the CD drive, older drives cant
>> read some or all copied disc's or the drive its self could be faulty, you
>> can check this by trying an original CD (if you have not already) also
>> check all the jumpers are set to cable select, CD drives(well DVD-RW )are
>> cheap, around �12 here so no big deal for replacment.
>>
>> Also you have made a XP slipstream disk up with all the patches & hotfixes
>> ? (also your serial number, regional settings and drivers if you want to
>> be really fancy) www.nliteos.com (Nlite)
>>
>> JD
>
> The CD drive does not work and there are no CD drivers. There's also no
> network drivers. I went to the Website for the BIOS, but what they offer for
> the Model Number that I input does not go in -- there's a report back that
> the BIOS being installed is not right. There are three different machines
> that come up, but none of the BIOS upgrades work.
>
> I think I have a bad motherboard on my hands. The only way I can think of to
> isolate it is to get the original CD with the drivers and stuff for it, but
> I seriously do not think it is available.
>
> I think I'll be buying a new motherboard for this one.
>

If you have the tool to burn a BIOS, start by archiving the existing
BIOS. Then, take a hex editor, and look for a version string for the
BIOS. Perhaps by comparing versions, you can figure out what *should*
be working.

The burner program, usually starts by comparing the identity info
in the current BIOS contents, before allowing the new BIOS to be
programmed. Sometimes you can override that. In some cases, it
actually required downloading an older version of the BIOS flashing
program.

Using badflash.com bypasses that issue entirely, as long as the
BIOS chip is socketed and can be replaced.

Paul

From: Jeff Strickland on 15 May 2010 15:18

"Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
news:hsmj46$l42$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> "JD" <No.Reply(a)Sorry.com> wrote in message
>> news:4bee9d85$0$12160$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>> On 15/05/2010 12:32 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry, but I have no Floppy. I only have a CD, and the Boot
>>>> Priority is
>>>> set to boot from the CD first, but this does not happen.
>>>>
>>>> I've got some serious issues going on here. I have no network, but the
>>>> NIC
>>>> is built into the motherboard.
>>>>
>>>> The CD is not recognized, but I can Eject with a right click. It shows
>>>> up,
>>>> and if empty I am prompted to load a disc. But when the disc is in, it
>>>> is
>>>> not read. I can right-click and chooes Eject, and the tray opens.
>>>>
>>>> I need the drivers for the motherboard, and I probably need to burn the
>>>> BIOS
>>>> in again.
>>>>
>>>> This is a Work in Progress.;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Could be a couple of things going on with the CD drive, older drives
>>> cant read some or all copied disc's or the drive its self could be
>>> faulty, you can check this by trying an original CD (if you have not
>>> already) also check all the jumpers are set to cable select, CD
>>> drives(well DVD-RW )are cheap, around �12 here so no big deal for
>>> replacment.
>>>
>>> Also you have made a XP slipstream disk up with all the patches &
>>> hotfixes ? (also your serial number, regional settings and drivers if
>>> you want to be really fancy) www.nliteos.com (Nlite)
>>>
>>> JD
>>
>> The CD drive does not work and there are no CD drivers. There's also no
>> network drivers. I went to the Website for the BIOS, but what they offer
>> for the Model Number that I input does not go in -- there's a report back
>> that the BIOS being installed is not right. There are three different
>> machines that come up, but none of the BIOS upgrades work.
>>
>> I think I have a bad motherboard on my hands. The only way I can think of
>> to isolate it is to get the original CD with the drivers and stuff for
>> it, but I seriously do not think it is available.
>>
>> I think I'll be buying a new motherboard for this one.
>>
>
> If you have the tool to burn a BIOS, start by archiving the existing
> BIOS. Then, take a hex editor, and look for a version string for the
> BIOS. Perhaps by comparing versions, you can figure out what *should*
> be working.
>

I don't know how to do that, or what to do.

The machine is a corporate-build Compaq. I have another machine with the
EXACT SAME case and all of the same holes for memory sticks and those sorts
of things. You would think the two machines are identical, but they are not.
Once you get past the paint scheme, there is nothing about them that's the
same. I went to the Compaq Website to download BIOS, but the machine I have
isn't one of the options, and the three options that come up by entering the
model number have a BIOS upgrades that do not work on my machine.

I don't know enough about this stuff, but since I am having so many
different problems AND I know there was a serious virus infection, I don't
know that reading the current BIOS would be very helpful. I suppose if you
knew what you were doing, it could help.




> The burner program, usually starts by comparing the identity info
> in the current BIOS contents, before allowing the new BIOS to be
> programmed. Sometimes you can override that. In some cases, it
> actually required downloading an older version of the BIOS flashing
> program.
>
> Using badflash.com bypasses that issue entirely, as long as the
> BIOS chip is socketed and can be replaced.
>
> Paul
>


From: James D. Andrews on 15 May 2010 15:38

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hsms2n$r60$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
> news:hsmj46$l42$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> "JD" <No.Reply(a)Sorry.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4bee9d85$0$12160$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> On 15/05/2010 12:32 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>> I'm sorry, but I have no Floppy. I only have a CD, and the Boot
>>>>> Priority is
>>>>> set to boot from the CD first, but this does not happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got some serious issues going on here. I have no network, but the
>>>>> NIC
>>>>> is built into the motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CD is not recognized, but I can Eject with a right click. It shows
>>>>> up,
>>>>> and if empty I am prompted to load a disc. But when the disc is in, it
>>>>> is
>>>>> not read. I can right-click and chooes Eject, and the tray opens.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need the drivers for the motherboard, and I probably need to burn
>>>>> the BIOS
>>>>> in again.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a Work in Progress.;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could be a couple of things going on with the CD drive, older drives
>>>> cant read some or all copied disc's or the drive its self could be
>>>> faulty, you can check this by trying an original CD (if you have not
>>>> already) also check all the jumpers are set to cable select, CD
>>>> drives(well DVD-RW )are cheap, around �12 here so no big deal for
>>>> replacment.
>>>>
>>>> Also you have made a XP slipstream disk up with all the patches &
>>>> hotfixes ? (also your serial number, regional settings and drivers if
>>>> you want to be really fancy) www.nliteos.com (Nlite)
>>>>
>>>> JD
>>>
>>> The CD drive does not work and there are no CD drivers. There's also no
>>> network drivers. I went to the Website for the BIOS, but what they offer
>>> for the Model Number that I input does not go in -- there's a report
>>> back that the BIOS being installed is not right. There are three
>>> different machines that come up, but none of the BIOS upgrades work.
>>>
>>> I think I have a bad motherboard on my hands. The only way I can think
>>> of to isolate it is to get the original CD with the drivers and stuff
>>> for it, but I seriously do not think it is available.
>>>
>>> I think I'll be buying a new motherboard for this one.
>>>
>>
>> If you have the tool to burn a BIOS, start by archiving the existing
>> BIOS. Then, take a hex editor, and look for a version string for the
>> BIOS. Perhaps by comparing versions, you can figure out what *should*
>> be working.
>>
>
> I don't know how to do that, or what to do.
>
> The machine is a corporate-build Compaq. I have another machine with the
> EXACT SAME case and all of the same holes for memory sticks and those
> sorts of things. You would think the two machines are identical, but they
> are not. Once you get past the paint scheme, there is nothing about them
> that's the same. I went to the Compaq Website to download BIOS, but the
> machine I have isn't one of the options, and the three options that come
> up by entering the model number have a BIOS upgrades that do not work on
> my machine.
>
> I don't know enough about this stuff, but since I am having so many
> different problems AND I know there was a serious virus infection, I don't
> know that reading the current BIOS would be very helpful. I suppose if you
> knew what you were doing, it could help.
>


I think JD mentioned earlier and one that comes to mind to me before getting
into the serious work: did you try substituting another CD drive that you
know works? If so, what were your results?



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