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From: Howard Brazee on 3 Feb 2010 12:01 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:58:48 +1300, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >I don't think they were "wrong", but I DO think the Constitution needs an >update in the light of what transpired on 9/11. While I don't agree that 9/11 is what should give the update, I do believe that we need to define the legal status of what has replaced declared war. This is a problem older than 9/11, but would address your concerns. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 3 Feb 2010 12:04 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:40:06 +1300, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >Modern Terrorists are not in the same league as these examples of >"monsters". I agree with this statement taken out of context. But having read history, I disagree entirely that those other examples were lesser atrocities. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 3 Feb 2010 12:05 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:48:10 +1300, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >I am becoming increasingly persuaded that we need different laws to deal >with terrorism, and that terrorists are not entitled to the rights that >"normal" criminals are. > >That doesn't mean we should demean ourselves by our treatement of them, but >it does mean we should not afford them the refuges and loopholes that >currently exist in most criminal justice systems. So in our current system, what terrorists have slipped through those loopholes? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 3 Feb 2010 12:10 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:29:04 +1300, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >I am always a little bit humbled, and touched, by friends who may be devout >Christians and actually fear for my mortal soul. >(Some of them genuinely care and don't want to see me suffering the torments >of Hell throughout Eternity.) >"What if you're wrong, Pete? What if you find yourself before God and have >to account? " Of course, what if they're wrong and Islam or Hinduism or some other religion is right? My son claims he never stopped believing in the Tooth Fairy, even though he's paying out for his kids. If he loses a tooth, he wants the money. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: SkippyPB on 3 Feb 2010 12:16
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:05:29 -0500, Tony Harding <tharding(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >On 01/28/10 10:39, SkippyPB wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:11:09 -0700, Howard Brazee<howard(a)brazee.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:26:39 -0500, Tony Harding >>> <tharding(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >>> >>>> As The Fugs said> 40 years ago, "killing for peace is like f*cking for >>>> chastity" (or words to that effect). >>> >>> That's how virgins are created... >> >> The actual phrase is, "Killing for peace is like screwing for >> virginity". > >Source? The Fugs said it the way I posted it. Personally, I don't see a >significant difference. > >:) http://www.zazzle.com/killing_for_peace_is_like_screwing_for_virginity_tshirt-235538335744994811 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418161351AATmjUZ And the Fugs never said that. Here's the lyrics to their 1964 (or 65) tune, "Kill For Peace": http://www.poemhunter.com/song/kill-for-peace/ Regards, -- //// (o o) -oOO--(_)--OOo- "I am not sincere, even when I say I am not." -- Jules Renard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remove nospam to email me. Steve |