From: Tony Toews [MVP] on
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:

>>>PS: FYI: The one article does mention http://www.startssl.com/
>>>which might even have cheaper prices (however I think they require
>>>that you have already registered, not sure). $49.95
>>
>> Actually that's $49.95 for two years. An even better deal.
>
>That website is down -- won't come up within the browser, and
>doesn't respond to PING. Traceroute suggests they are based in
>Isreal, but is dying somewhere before it gets to their server. I
>can't quite see how I could depend on a cert provider whose own
>website is not redundantly hosted so that it's never down!

Puzzling because it's working just fine for me. I suspect a error
somewhere between your ISP and them then.

C:\>tracert startssl.com

Tracing route to startssl.com [192.116.242.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

2 d205-206-24-1.abhsia.telus.net [205.206.24.1]
3 154.11.197.65
4 204.225.243.18
5 sl-gw12-sea-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.224.113.153]
6 sl-bb21-sea-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.6.123]
7 pos1-2.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [204.255.169.117]
8 0.so-4-2-0.XT2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.105.86]
9 0.xe-3-2-0.IL2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.26.93]
10 0.ge-1-2-0.IL2.NYC12.ALTER.NET [152.63.26.98]
11 ge-0-2-0.XT2.LND9.ALTER.NET [158.43.252.46]
12 GigabitEthernet1-0-0.GW3.LND9.ALTER.NET [158.43.
150.110]
13 62.189.148.35
14 EDGE.LON-02-RE1-xe-0-0-0-51.bb.012.net.il [80.17
9.165.170]
15 EDGE.LON-01-RE1-xe-0-0-0-100.bb.012.net.il [80.1
79.165.69]
16 BRDR.PT-M320-RE1-so-3-2-0-0.bb.012.net.il [80.17
9.165.153]
17 WAN-ASR-PT-01-Te0-0-0-2450.bb.012.net.il [212.19
9.4.2]
18 gateway.startcom.org [212.117.158.94]
19 * ^C
C:\>

>I wanted to look because the "ssl" in the name suggests to me that
>it's more aimed at websites needing HTTPS certs and for SSH
>tunneling and the like, rather than for EXE certification.

They appear to have exe certs too.

Tony
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Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
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From: Tony Toews [MVP] on
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:

>>>Ahh, found it. https://winqual.microsoft.com/SignUp/
>>
>><giggle> MS sure doesn't like it when you hit that URL with your
>> default FIrefox browser.
>
>I get the identical page in FF and IE. It doesn't say anything about
>the discount.

Interesting. In IE I get a page that states in big letters Establish
an Account. Then gives you a list of companies. Then Create a
Company Account and then the bulleted three paragraphs down states

"VeriSign 'Microsoft Authenticode' Code Signing Digital Certificate
($499 $99 USD) " Where the $499 is crossed out.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/
From: Tony Toews [MVP] on
"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:

>> As far as I know you can digitally sign any exe or msi file and a
>> few others. But I'm not an expert here.
>
>Does a single cert cover multiple versions of your EXE? Or do you
>have to get a new one each time you issue an update?

A single cert covers any number of exe's, msi's etc I wish to publish
for the year or whatever duration I've purchased the cert. I do have
to sign the code each time I want to make the exe available to the
public.

I would assume Access MDBs, ACCDEs, etc but I haven't bothered to try
that yet.

That said I *always* run the above cmd file when making an exe for
testing purposes on other Virtual PC OSs. So I might run it five or
ten times a day.

>And what is the price you're talking about here? $50? $500? $5000?

Using the link I provided to the
https://secure.ksoftware.net/code_signing.html site - $100 per year.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/
From: David W. Fenton on
"Tony Toews [MVP]" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in
news:8jejv59ll9g19f7jithfructgn6k5ij1ip(a)4ax.com:

> "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>PS: FYI: The one article does mention http://www.startssl.com/
>>>>which might even have cheaper prices (however I think they
>>>>require that you have already registered, not sure). $49.95
>>>
>>> Actually that's $49.95 for two years. An even better deal.
>>
>>That website is down -- won't come up within the browser, and
>>doesn't respond to PING. Traceroute suggests they are based in
>>Isreal, but is dying somewhere before it gets to their server. I
>>can't quite see how I could depend on a cert provider whose own
>>website is not redundantly hosted so that it's never down!
>
> Puzzling because it's working just fine for me. I suspect a error
> somewhere between your ISP and them then.

My traceroute was failing just before the last step of yours, so it
really was an issue on their end, not my ISP's.

> C:\>tracert startssl.com
>
> Tracing route to startssl.com [192.116.242.20]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 2 d205-206-24-1.abhsia.telus.net [205.206.24.1]
> 3 154.11.197.65
> 4 204.225.243.18
> 5 sl-gw12-sea-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.224.113.153]
> 6 sl-bb21-sea-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.6.123]
> 7 pos1-2.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [204.255.169.117]
> 8 0.so-4-2-0.XT2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.105.86]
> 9 0.xe-3-2-0.IL2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.26.93]
> 10 0.ge-1-2-0.IL2.NYC12.ALTER.NET [152.63.26.98]
> 11 ge-0-2-0.XT2.LND9.ALTER.NET [158.43.252.46]
> 12 GigabitEthernet1-0-0.GW3.LND9.ALTER.NET [158.43.
> 150.110]
> 13 62.189.148.35
> 14 EDGE.LON-02-RE1-xe-0-0-0-51.bb.012.net.il [80.17
> 9.165.170]
> 15 EDGE.LON-01-RE1-xe-0-0-0-100.bb.012.net.il [80.1
> 79.165.69]
> 16 BRDR.PT-M320-RE1-so-3-2-0-0.bb.012.net.il [80.17
> 9.165.153]
> 17 WAN-ASR-PT-01-Te0-0-0-2450.bb.012.net.il [212.19
> 9.4.2]
> 18 gateway.startcom.org [212.117.158.94]
> 19 * ^C
> C:\>
>
>>I wanted to look because the "ssl" in the name suggests to me that
>>it's more aimed at websites needing HTTPS certs and for SSH
>>tunneling and the like, rather than for EXE certification.
>
> They appear to have exe certs too.

The site is up now (though I'd already looked at it in the Google
cache).

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usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
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