From: Harold A Climer on
Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did
on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command?
Harold A Climer
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Dept of Physics,Geology,& Astronomy
Room 309 Grote Hall
615 McCallie Ave
Chattanooga TN 37403
Harold-Climer(a)utc.edu
From: Dave Boyd on
Harold A Climer wrote:
> Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did
> on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command?

Err... the old HP48 Units menu is present as right-shift 6. Prof. Dr.
Rautenberg's Unitman still works fine, too. Naturally, you need to have
the soft-menu flag set (-117 SF). Is that what you meant?


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Dave Boyd
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From: Harold A Climer on
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:03:12 -0400, Dave Boyd <boydda(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>Harold A Climer wrote:
>> Is there a way to convert units on the HP50 as we did
>> on the 48GX without using the CONVERT(X,Y) command?
>
>Err... the old HP48 Units menu is present as right-shift 6. Prof. Dr.
>Rautenberg's Unitman still works fine, too. Naturally, you need to have
>the soft-menu flag set (-117 SF). Is that what you meant?
Thanks. That is what I meant. It is amazing how things work
"correctly" when flag 117 is on.
I was wondering why the designers of the 50 thought it necessary to
have to set this flag for the soft menus. I am really not an expert,
but was this also true in the 48GX, 49G and 49G+ too, or is this new
to the 50G.
What, if any advantages does not having flag 117 set bring to the
calculator?
Harold A Climer
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Dept of Physics,Geology,& Astronomy
Room 309 Grote Hall
615 McCallie Ave
Chattanooga TN 37403
Harold-Climer(a)utc.edu
From: John H Meyers on
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:39:50 -0500, Harold A Climer wrote:

> I was wondering why the designers of the 50 thought it necessary to
> have to set flag -117 for the soft menus. I am really not an expert,
> but was this also true in the 48GX, 49G and 49G+ too, or is this new
> to the 50G.

Started with the first 49G in 1999
(48GX rom R ended the "48" series in 1993).

> What, if any, advantages
> does not having flag 117 set bring to the calculator?

Have you seen any HP48-style applications on a computer lately?

Even my really old Sharp Wizard went for "computer-like"
menus many years ago, just as even the HP48G began to
move towards with its "choose" and "forms" interfaces;
the HP49G then began to try to make *everything*
become a "choose" menu -- which often failed,
especially for the special shifted operations,
the "little box in menu label" items,
and the inability to use the stack first,
*before* selecting a menu item.

Even RPN mode was hidden by default;
it's a wonder that the HP logo even remained,
given that it was supposed to disguise itself as a TI calc,
with only the money going to HP instead :)

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From: Savage on

"John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote in message
news:op.tqag4buhnn735j(a)w2kjhm.ia.mum.edu...
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:39:50 -0500, Harold A Climer wrote:
>

[snip]

> the HP49G then began to try to make *everything*
> become a "choose" menu -- which often failed,
> especially for the special shifted operations,
> the "little box in menu label" items,

speaking of which... does anyone know how one can get information on how to
program a custom menu with soft keys that display the little box when flag
or setting is toggled ( like the soft keys in << 65 MENU >>)?

Greg