From: Chris Bore on
On Dec 28, 7:04 pm, dvsarwate <dvsarw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 10:59 am, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> averred:
>
>
>
> > I had one guy with a Ph.D. in some electrical branch of physics tell me
> > that the curved line on the schematic representation of a 'lytic was a
> > "mere visual embellishment". To prove that a polar capacitor was a
> > contradiction in terms, he wrote out the defining equation.
>
> Oh, shoot! You mean V = IR is all wrong and if I apply
> a gazillion volts to a 1-ohm resistor, I won't get a gazillion
> amps flowing through it?
>
> --Dilip Burntfingers

I have missed these arguments so much.... :-)

New Year Resolution: participate in comp.dsp more again.

Chris
==========================
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
www.bores.com
From: Eric Jacobsen on
On 12/30/2009 9:12 AM, Chris Bore wrote:
> On Dec 28, 7:04 pm, dvsarwate<dvsarw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 10:59 am, Jerry Avins<j...(a)ieee.org> averred:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I had one guy with a Ph.D. in some electrical branch of physics tell me
>>> that the curved line on the schematic representation of a 'lytic was a
>>> "mere visual embellishment". To prove that a polar capacitor was a
>>> contradiction in terms, he wrote out the defining equation.
>> Oh, shoot! You mean V = IR is all wrong and if I apply
>> a gazillion volts to a 1-ohm resistor, I won't get a gazillion
>> amps flowing through it?
>>
>> --Dilip Burntfingers
>
> I have missed these arguments so much.... :-)
>
> New Year Resolution: participate in comp.dsp more again.
>
> Chris
> ==========================
> Chris Bore
> BORES Signal Processing
> www.bores.com

Please do! ;)

--
Eric Jacobsen
Minister of Algorithms
Abineau Communications
http://www.abineau.com
From: HardySpicer on
On Dec 31, 4:01 am, Rune Allnor <all...(a)tele.ntnu.no> wrote:
> On 30 Des, 08:19, glen herrmannsfeldt <g...(a)ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > HardySpicer <gyansor...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > (snip, I wrote)
>
> > >> I am not so sure how it works in EE, but in physics there are
> > >> theoretical and experimental physicists. ?Many good theoretical
> > >> physicists aren't very good at lab work. ?There is the well known
> > >> "Pauli effect" ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect
> > > Engineers haven't realised this yet. The industry ones bleat on and
> > > one about how they are the only ones that can solve real problems and
> > > the academics bleat on and on about the limitations of industry. There
> > > is little respect of one wrt the other as you can see.
>
> > As far as respect, in physics each has many good stories and jokes
> > about the other.  Personally, I remember a party for a new theoretical
> > physics Ph.D. including a bottle of champagne.  While I believe
> > any experimental physicist could figure out how to open a bottle,
> > this Ph.D theoretical physicist could not get it open.
>
> The main difference between industry and academia is
> that in industry, the fools, frauds, and failures will
> eventually be recognized as such - if not sooner so
> at least when their failed plans cause some damage or
> when their schemes fall apart.
>
> People are held legally and economically accountable.
> Companies tend to go out of business if the skills,
> knowledge and craftmanship are substandard.
>
> Not so in academia. In academia, anyone can apparently do
> anything without any danger of repercusions once they have
> optained tenure. Most of the projects I used to be involved


Only in the US system and some otehr countries. Not all countries.
Also it is not always country specific: sometimes the Unis make up
their own rules. In essence I agree however. Uni Profs hide under the
guise of committees. Your ordinary lecturer may not always get away
with murder however.
Repeated bad results for students (in teaching) and a poor research
performance may well lead to the door.. In reality what happens in
demotion to a teaching assistant or whatever if research is poor. If
research is good and teaching is poor then they normally get away with
it. Sad..


Hardy


From: HardySpicer on
On Dec 31, 5:41 am, Eric Jacobsen <eric.jacob...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> On 12/30/2009 9:12 AM, Chris Bore wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 7:04 pm, dvsarwate<dvsarw...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Dec 28, 10:59 am, Jerry Avins<j...(a)ieee.org>  averred:
>
> >>> I had one guy with a Ph.D. in some electrical branch of physics tell me
> >>> that the curved line on the schematic representation of a 'lytic was a
> >>> "mere visual embellishment". To prove that a polar capacitor was a
> >>> contradiction in terms, he wrote out the defining equation.
> >> Oh, shoot! You mean V = IR is all wrong and if I apply
> >> a gazillion volts to a 1-ohm resistor, I won't get a gazillion
> >> amps flowing through it?
>
> >> --Dilip Burntfingers
>
> > I have missed these arguments so much.... :-)
>
> > New Year Resolution: participate in comp.dsp more again.
>
> > Chris
> > ==========================
> > Chris Bore
> > BORES Signal Processing
> >www.bores.com
>
> Please do!    ;)
>
> --
> Eric Jacobsen
> Minister of Algorithms
> Abineau Communicationshttp://www.abineau.com

An experimental physicist had completed an important experiment on the
determination of the relationship betwen two physical quantities A and
B. He rushed across the campus to the office of a theoretical
mathematician who was occupied with the same problem.

“Volodya! I have finished the experiment. A has turned out to be
larger than B!”

The mathematician thought about this for a moment before replying.

“This is completely understandable. You didn’t even have to make your
experiment, as A must be larger than B for the following reasons…”

“Oh dear,” interuppted the physicist. “Did I really say that A was
larger than B? I slipped up — it is B that is larger than A!”

The mathematician thought about this for a moment more before
replying.

“Then this is even more understandable, and here is why…”
From: Rune Allnor on
On 30 Des, 17:05, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> Rune Allnor wrote:
>
>    ...
>
> > The main difference between industry and academia is
> > that in industry, the fools, frauds, and failures will
> > eventually be recognized as such - if not sooner so
> > at least when their failed plans cause some damage or
> > when their schemes fall apart.
>
> Oh? Don't they get promoted to management?

Sure. I said 'recognized,' not 'disposed of.'

It's a far different thing to deal with somebody
you know to be an incompetent fool, and somebody
who is, but you don't know about.

Rune