Dimension 4550 AGP Video Card Recomendations
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From: Christopher Muto on 4 Jul 2010 12:35 Tim wrote: > "Pat Conover" wrote in message > news:i0q6a0$4s7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Hi All; > > Well, I know I shouldn't have, but I went ahead and upgraded my old trusty > Dimension 4550 with a 2.4 GHz P4 processor and 533MHz bus from 768MB of RAM > to 2GB of RAM. Dell said it would only take 1GB, and that upgrade was not > worth the effort. But I was on the Crucial site the other day, and ran the > memory advisor program that said it would take up to 2GB of memory. So > $100 > and two 1GB sticks of DDR PC3200 memory later, this old workhorse is > running > like a new machine! Based on the recommendations in this group, I have > also > been running Defraggler, and CCleaner, which also helps pep things up. I > also run Lars Headerer's (SP?) ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility for NT) > aka > system restore for adults, and NTREGOPT (NT Registry Optimizer) defrag for > the registry. Lean and mean programs, that I highly recommend for your > toolkit. Google ERUNT to go to Lars home page. > > Anyway on to my question, I am now running a lowly 64MB NVidia MX420 AGP > video card, and one program that I would like to rum as a local copy won't > install with that card. Nice enough to tell me, before I installed the > program and had random lockups, etc. The specific requirements that my > card > doesn't meet are: > > "24-bit capable graphics accelerator An OpenGL 2.0 or higher compliant > video > card is required, with at least 32 MB of video memory, however 256 MB of > video memory or higher is recommended." > > So what AGP video card would you recommend based on the above. I think my > AGP port is only 2X or something like that and not 4X. > > Thanks, Pat > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187045 > This should be a nice upgrade. I had similar in my 4550. > the fx5200 does not support opengel 2.0 so this is not likely going to solve the problem you have. the manufacturers product page (that newegg actually has a link to) details that it is only supports opengl 1.4... http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=12&sub_id=23
From: Pat Conover on 4 Jul 2010 12:40 "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:u7edne0y1u4-Kq3RnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > Pen wrote: >> On 7/4/2010 10:37 AM, Pat Conover wrote: >>> Hi All; >>> >>> Well, I know I shouldn't have, but I went ahead and upgraded my old >>> trusty Dimension 4550 with a 2.4 GHz P4 processor and 533MHz bus from >>> 768MB of RAM to 2GB of RAM. Dell said it would only take 1GB, and that >>> upgrade was not worth the effort. But I was on the Crucial site the >>> other day, and ran the memory advisor program that said it would take up >>> to 2GB of memory. So $100 and two 1GB sticks of DDR PC3200 memory >>> later, this old workhorse is running like a new machine! Based on the >>> recommendations in this group, I have also been running Defraggler, and >>> CCleaner, which also helps pep things up. I also run Lars Headerer's >>> (SP?) ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility for NT) aka system restore for >>> adults, and NTREGOPT (NT Registry Optimizer) defrag for the registry. >>> Lean and mean programs, that I highly recommend for your toolkit. >>> Google ERUNT to go to Lars home page. >>> >>> Anyway on to my question, I am now running a lowly 64MB NVidia MX420 AGP >>> video card, and one program that I would like to rum as a local copy >>> won't install with that card. Nice enough to tell me, before I >>> installed the program and had random lockups, etc. The specific >>> requirements that my card doesn't meet are: >>> >>> "24-bit capable graphics accelerator An OpenGL 2.0 or higher compliant >>> video card is required, with at least 32 MB of video memory, however 256 >>> MB of video memory or higher is recommended." >>> >>> So what AGP video card would you recommend based on the above. I think >>> my AGP port is only 2X or something like that and not 4X. >>> >>> Thanks, Pat >>> >>> >>> >> Your machine actually is 4x. Newegg has a bunch of AGP cards >> starting at $30 and up. >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=agp%20video%20card&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=100 >> Dell docs here; >> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/SYSTEMS/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572 > > careful, many of the card in that list do not support opengl 2.0. but the > $589 card does ;) Yikes, $589! I can buy a whole New System for that price. Chris, you are right about this old machine, but I have so many apps installed, downloaded, etc. that I hate to take the time to do a clean install on this or a new machine. Just lazy I guess. Thanks for the replies, I just logged into my account and will check the 4X specs. If not too expensive, maybe I can also get DVI video out for my Dell 20" 2007FP, and I can squeeze a few more years out of her. Thanks, Pat
From: Christopher Muto on 4 Jul 2010 12:41 Christopher Muto wrote: > Pat Conover wrote: >> Hi All; >> >> Well, I know I shouldn't have, but I went ahead and upgraded my old >> trusty Dimension 4550 with a 2.4 GHz P4 processor and 533MHz bus from >> 768MB of RAM to 2GB of RAM. Dell said it would only take 1GB, and >> that upgrade was not worth the effort. But I was on the Crucial site >> the other day, and ran the memory advisor program that said it would >> take up to 2GB of memory. So $100 and two 1GB sticks of DDR PC3200 >> memory later, this old workhorse is running like a new machine! Based >> on the recommendations in this group, I have also been running >> Defraggler, and CCleaner, which also helps pep things up. I also run >> Lars Headerer's (SP?) ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility for NT) aka >> system restore for adults, and NTREGOPT (NT Registry Optimizer) defrag >> for the registry. Lean and mean programs, that I highly recommend for >> your toolkit. Google ERUNT to go to Lars home page. >> >> Anyway on to my question, I am now running a lowly 64MB NVidia MX420 >> AGP video card, and one program that I would like to rum as a local >> copy won't install with that card. Nice enough to tell me, before I >> installed the program and had random lockups, etc. The specific >> requirements that my card doesn't meet are: >> >> "24-bit capable graphics accelerator An OpenGL 2.0 or higher compliant >> video card is required, with at least 32 MB of video memory, however >> 256 MB of video memory or higher is recommended." >> >> So what AGP video card would you recommend based on the above. I >> think my AGP port is only 2X or something like that and not 4X. >> >> Thanks, Pat >> > > the nvidia mx420 only support opengl 1.3 and so that is probably the > problem with whatever software you are trying to run. > here is an inexpensive card that support opengl 2. i have no opinion of > the card. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131173 > if you scroll down to the section on opengl 2 in this wiki you can find > the model numbers of older several cards that support opengl 2 which you > can probably find on ebay. you have to be careful on how much you want > to put into this older machine. i suspect that even if you get a new > video card whatever program it is that you are trying to run will likely > has disappointing (unusable) performance on this machine. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL > here is the least expensive agp card that support opengl 2.0... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130465 one of the newegg customer reviews confirms compatibility with the dimension 4550 which should help you feel confident about the purchase.
From: Pat Conover on 4 Jul 2010 12:50 "Pat Conover" <public(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:i0qdhn$v6d$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:u7edne0y1u4-Kq3RnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> Pen wrote: >>> On 7/4/2010 10:37 AM, Pat Conover wrote: >>>> Hi All; >>>> >>>> Well, I know I shouldn't have, but I went ahead and upgraded my old >>>> trusty Dimension 4550 with a 2.4 GHz P4 processor and 533MHz bus from >>>> 768MB of RAM to 2GB of RAM. Dell said it would only take 1GB, and that >>>> upgrade was not worth the effort. But I was on the Crucial site the >>>> other day, and ran the memory advisor program that said it would take >>>> up to 2GB of memory. So $100 and two 1GB sticks of DDR PC3200 memory >>>> later, this old workhorse is running like a new machine! Based on the >>>> recommendations in this group, I have also been running Defraggler, and >>>> CCleaner, which also helps pep things up. I also run Lars Headerer's >>>> (SP?) ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility for NT) aka system restore for >>>> adults, and NTREGOPT (NT Registry Optimizer) defrag for the registry. >>>> Lean and mean programs, that I highly recommend for your toolkit. >>>> Google ERUNT to go to Lars home page. >>>> >>>> Anyway on to my question, I am now running a lowly 64MB NVidia MX420 >>>> AGP video card, and one program that I would like to rum as a local >>>> copy won't install with that card. Nice enough to tell me, before I >>>> installed the program and had random lockups, etc. The specific >>>> requirements that my card doesn't meet are: >>>> >>>> "24-bit capable graphics accelerator An OpenGL 2.0 or higher compliant >>>> video card is required, with at least 32 MB of video memory, however >>>> 256 MB of video memory or higher is recommended." >>>> >>>> So what AGP video card would you recommend based on the above. I think >>>> my AGP port is only 2X or something like that and not 4X. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Your machine actually is 4x. Newegg has a bunch of AGP cards >>> starting at $30 and up. >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=agp%20video%20card&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=100 >>> Dell docs here; >>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/SYSTEMS/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572 >> >> careful, many of the card in that list do not support opengl 2.0. but >> the $589 card does ;) > > Yikes, $589! I can buy a whole New System for that price. Chris, you are > right about this old machine, but I have so many apps installed, > downloaded, etc. that I hate to take the time to do a clean install on > this or a new machine. Just lazy I guess. Thanks for the replies, I just > logged into my account and will check the 4X specs. If not too expensive, > maybe I can also get DVI video out for my Dell 20" 2007FP, and I can > squeeze a few more years out of her. Thanks, Pat Yep, just pulled it up from My Computers on Dell the AGP port is 2X/4X. Thanks, Pat
From: Pat Conover on 4 Jul 2010 13:17
hanks, Pat "Pat Conover" <public(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:i0qe47$1ob$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Pat Conover" <public(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:i0qdhn$v6d$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "Christopher Muto" <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message >> news:u7edne0y1u4-Kq3RnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >>> Pen wrote: >>>> On 7/4/2010 10:37 AM, Pat Conover wrote: >>>>> Hi All; >>>>> >>>>> Well, I know I shouldn't have, but I went ahead and upgraded my old >>>>> trusty Dimension 4550 with a 2.4 GHz P4 processor and 533MHz bus from >>>>> 768MB of RAM to 2GB of RAM. Dell said it would only take 1GB, and >>>>> that upgrade was not worth the effort. But I was on the Crucial site >>>>> the other day, and ran the memory advisor program that said it would >>>>> take up to 2GB of memory. So $100 and two 1GB sticks of DDR PC3200 >>>>> memory later, this old workhorse is running like a new machine! Based >>>>> on the recommendations in this group, I have also been running >>>>> Defraggler, and CCleaner, which also helps pep things up. I also run >>>>> Lars Headerer's (SP?) ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility for NT) aka >>>>> system restore for adults, and NTREGOPT (NT Registry Optimizer) defrag >>>>> for the registry. Lean and mean programs, that I highly recommend for >>>>> your toolkit. Google ERUNT to go to Lars home page. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway on to my question, I am now running a lowly 64MB NVidia MX420 >>>>> AGP video card, and one program that I would like to rum as a local >>>>> copy won't install with that card. Nice enough to tell me, before I >>>>> installed the program and had random lockups, etc. The specific >>>>> requirements that my card doesn't meet are: >>>>> >>>>> "24-bit capable graphics accelerator An OpenGL 2.0 or higher compliant >>>>> video card is required, with at least 32 MB of video memory, however >>>>> 256 MB of video memory or higher is recommended." >>>>> >>>>> So what AGP video card would you recommend based on the above. I >>>>> think my AGP port is only 2X or something like that and not 4X. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Your machine actually is 4x. Newegg has a bunch of AGP cards >>>> starting at $30 and up. >>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=agp%20video%20card&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=100 >>>> Dell docs here; >>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/SYSTEMS/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572 >>> >>> careful, many of the card in that list do not support opengl 2.0. but >>> the $589 card does ;) >> >> Yikes, $589! I can buy a whole New System for that price. Chris, you are >> right about this old machine, but I have so many apps installed, >> downloaded, etc. that I hate to take the time to do a clean install on >> this or a new machine. Just lazy I guess. Thanks for the replies, I just >> logged into my account and will check the 4X specs. If not too expensive, >> maybe I can also get DVI video out for my Dell 20" 2007FP, and I can >> squeeze a few more years out of her. Thanks, Pat > > Yep, just pulled it up from My Computers on Dell the AGP port is 2X/4X. > Thanks, Pat The $589 card is out of the question, I may be stupid spending more money on this old machine, but I am not that stupid. The $40 256MB EVGA card with free shipping and OpenGL 2.0 support seems to be the ticket. No additional power required either, but it does say: Minimum of a 250 Watt power supply. (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 18 Amps.) I assume my 200 Watt (underrated) Dell PS will suffice? Any additional advice Chris or others? Thanks again, Pat |