From: Bob Williams on
Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?

There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams
From: Kabuki on
I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that

do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?

I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
around

many people like the pen tool (I don't)

another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)





"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam(a)cox.net> wrote in message
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> Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
> using the Filter > Extract Command?
> I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
> Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
>
> There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
> I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
> Anybody use it?
> Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
> Bob Williams


From: tony cooper on
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:14:00 -0700, Bob Williams
<mytbobnospam(a)cox.net> wrote:

>Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
>using the Filter > Extract Command?
>I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
>Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
>
>There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
>I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
>Anybody use it?
>Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
>Bob Williams

Once you learn how to use the Layer Mask function of Photoshop, you'll
never miss Extract. (Which has been dropped in later versions) Also
good for extractions is Quick Mask. I do use a Wacom Bamboo tablet
for the close work.

However, if you want KnockOut, it's now a product of Corel. KnockOut2
sells for $99. They don't seem to have a trial version.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1152105061771#tabview=tab0

A Wacom Bamboo tablet is also $99 (or less if you catch a special
offer), and money better spent (imo) than $99 for KnockOut2.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Bob Williams on
Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair,
fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I've been considering a Wacom tablet but haven't taken the "plunge" yet.
Bob

Kabuki wrote:
> I never use extract
> In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
>
> do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?
>
> I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
> If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
> range (then inverse)
> also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
> areas
> I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
> around
>
> many people like the pen tool (I don't)
>
> another completely different method is using channels
> it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
>
> http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam(a)cox.net> wrote in message
> news:JdiAm.43894$bP1.42648(a)newsfe24.iad...
>> Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
>> using the Filter > Extract Command?
>> I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
>> Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
>>
>> There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
>> I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
>> Anybody use it?
>> Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
>> Bob Williams


From: Kabuki on
> Kabuki wrote:
>> I never use extract
>> In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
>>
>> do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?
>>
>> I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
>> If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
>> range (then inverse)
>> also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
>> areas
>> I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
>> around
>>
>> many people like the pen tool (I don't)
>>
>> another completely different method is using channels
>> it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
>>
>> http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load
>> time-wait)
>>
>> "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam(a)cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:JdiAm.43894$bP1.42648(a)newsfe24.iad...
>>> Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
>>> using the Filter > Extract Command?
>>> I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
>>> Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
>>>
>>> There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
>>> I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
>>> Anybody use it?
>>> Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
>>> Bob Williams
>


"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam(a)cox.net> wrote in message
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> Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
> I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair,
> fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
> I've been considering a Wacom tablet but haven't taken the "plunge" yet.
> Bob

DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing
blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far

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