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From: David Mark on 20 Mar 2010 12:09 David Mark wrote: > David Mark wrote: >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> David Mark wrote: >>> >>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>>>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>>>>> [Douglas Crockford's recommendations] >>>>>>> Don't forget his recommendation to use `window' to avoid "implied >>>>>>> globals" (in jslint). Now that's a ridiculous blunder not easily >>>>>>> forgiven. >>>>>> Yes. I forgot that one (if I ever knew of it). Do you mean he >>>>>> recommends:- >>>>>> >>>>>> window.myvar = something; >>>>>> >>>>>> (?) >>>>>> >>>>>> That would be unpardonable. :) >>>>> Here you are: >>>>> >>>>> <news:4A0393D0.8080405(a)PointedEars.de> >>>>> <news:43606011.BCLMh4Saal(a)PointedEars.de> >>>> Thanks, but TB doesn't seem to like those. Probably confused by so many >>>> different FF versions installed beside it. >>> Unlikely. Try with <http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/> or, to be even more on- >>> topic (Mnenhy is probably written in JavaScript), the following bookmarklet >>> (remove the "news:" from the parameter or change the code): >> I have no idea what it was doing. Clicking the links appeared to be a noop. > > Pasting the news: link into Chrome opened a new TB instance, popped up > an empty Identity dialog (which I canceled) and then did nothing. I > give up. :) > And speaking of Usenet/Google mysteries. How is it that some people have their names in the post totals, while others have email addresses? I remember looking at the message source from people in each group, but couldn't spot any likely discrepancies. I've noticed that, like everything about GG, the behavior switches from time to time (sometimes everyone has an email address rather than a name). The totals never seem to add up either (compared to other GG report pages), but that's not new (Google could never count very well).
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 20 Mar 2010 12:27 David Mark wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> David Mark wrote: >>>> [get posting by Message-ID] >> javascript:window.location="http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid="+"%s".replace(/^<(news:)?| >> > $/g,""); > > That is getting all fouled up in TB, as well as GG. I tried to piece it > back together, but kept getting Google server errors. No, bookmarklets are for your *Web* *browser*. You need to create a bookmark with the above value as URI and give it a keyword. Then type the keyword and the parameter (`%s' is replaced with the parameter when you use the bookmarklet). At least that is how it works in Mozillas. The alternative is to type the Message-ID without `<', and `>' in the Message-ID field on the bottom of <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search>. > Can you just post a GG (http) link? If I must: <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid=4A0393D0.8080405(a)PointedEars.de> <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid=43606011.BCLMh4Saal(a)PointedEars.de> (That is the same as if you typed it in the form.) PointedEars -- realism: HTML 4.01 Strict evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml -- Bjoern Hoehrmann
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 20 Mar 2010 12:33 David Mark wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> David Mark wrote: >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>>>> [Douglas Crockford's recommendations] >>>> [...] >>>> <news:4A0393D0.8080405(a)PointedEars.de> >>>> <news:43606011.BCLMh4Saal(a)PointedEars.de> >>> Thanks, but TB doesn't seem to like those. Probably confused by so >>> many different FF versions installed beside it. >> >> Unlikely. Try with <http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/> or, to be even more on- >> topic (Mnenhy is probably written in JavaScript), the following >> bookmarklet (remove the "news:" from the parameter or change the code): > > I have no idea what it was doing. Clicking the links appeared to be a > noop. Clicking the secondary mouse button (on Mac: Ctrl+Click) should show a context menu containing "Search Msg-ID" > "Google Groups". But it is possible that you have to insert `/search' in the resulting URI, as described, for this to work, because Google changed their Advanced Search interface. The author has not released a new version yet, not even one that would be compatible with TB3, which really is a pity as it is a great tool (Msg-ID lookup is only one of its many functions). PointedEars -- realism: HTML 4.01 Strict evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml -- Bjoern Hoehrmann
From: David Mark on 20 Mar 2010 12:33 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > David Mark wrote: > >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>> [get posting by Message-ID] > javascript:window.location="http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid="+"%s".replace(/^<(news:)?| >>>> $/g,""); >> That is getting all fouled up in TB, as well as GG. I tried to piece it >> back together, but kept getting Google server errors. > > No, bookmarklets are for your *Web* *browser*. I know that. I pasted it into the Web browser's address bar, which AFAIK, should have worked. > You need to create a > bookmark with the above value as URI and give it a keyword. Ah, I never bother with them, so I am ignorant of the mechanics involved. I thought they were basically just javascript: links bookmarked. > Then type the > keyword and the parameter (`%s' is replaced with the parameter when you use > the bookmarklet). At least that is how it works in Mozillas. No idea. > > The alternative is to type the Message-ID without `<', and `>' in the > Message-ID field on the bottom of > > <http://groups.google.com/advanced_search>. Right. I was getting tired of messing with GG though. > >> Can you just post a GG (http) link? > > If I must: > > <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid=4A0393D0.8080405(a)PointedEars.de> > <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_umsgid=43606011.BCLMh4Saal(a)PointedEars.de> Thanks. The first was the JSLint oddity I mentioned. The second is a real spit-take moment. It goes to show that he knows the language (very well of course), but not so much how to apply it in a browser.
From: David Mark on 20 Mar 2010 12:34 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > David Mark wrote: > >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> David Mark wrote: >>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>>>>> David Mark wrote: >>>>>>>> [Douglas Crockford's recommendations] >>>>> [...] >>>>> <news:4A0393D0.8080405(a)PointedEars.de> >>>>> <news:43606011.BCLMh4Saal(a)PointedEars.de> >>>> Thanks, but TB doesn't seem to like those. Probably confused by so >>>> many different FF versions installed beside it. >>> Unlikely. Try with <http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/> or, to be even more on- >>> topic (Mnenhy is probably written in JavaScript), the following >>> bookmarklet (remove the "news:" from the parameter or change the code): >> I have no idea what it was doing. Clicking the links appeared to be a >> noop. > > Clicking the secondary mouse button (on Mac: Ctrl+Click) should show a > context menu containing "Search Msg-ID" > "Google Groups". But it is > possible that you have to insert `/search' in the resulting URI, as > described, for this to work, because Google changed their Advanced Search > interface. The author has not released a new version yet, not even one > that would be compatible with TB3, which really is a pity as it is a great > tool (Msg-ID lookup is only one of its many functions). > > Sorry, I was referring to TB. I didn't download that other thing.
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