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From: David H. Lipman on 6 May 2010 22:12
From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>

| Opps, forgot another you might find useful in your review [perhaps the
| graphic might give some additional direction]:

| http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=477&uid=swg21245232


SameTimes Policies are for the server and how it will work. It doesn't have to do with
the software on the PC.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


From: MEB on 6 May 2010 22:49
On 05/06/2010 10:12 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>
>
> | Opps, forgot another you might find useful in your review [perhaps the
> | graphic might give some additional direction]:
>
> | http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=477&uid=swg21245232
>
>
> SameTimes Policies are for the server and how it will work. It doesn't have to do with
> the software on the PC.
>

Ah okay, IT or whomever still have network policies, user policies,
other servers and their policies, firewalls, yada yada, ... so what are
you attempting to say here... or are you ignoring regular/normal
internal and external controls...

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From: David H. Lipman on 7 May 2010 06:37
From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>

| On 05/06/2010 10:12 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>

>> | Opps, forgot another you might find useful in your review [perhaps the
>> | graphic might give some additional direction]:

>> | http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=477&uid=swg21245232


>> SameTimes Policies are for the server and how it will work. It doesn't have to do
>> with
>> the software on the PC.


| Ah okay, IT or whomever still have network policies, user policies,
| other servers and their policies, firewalls, yada yada, ... so what are
| you attempting to say here... or are you ignoring regular/normal
| internal and external controls...

In reference to...

> Implement the "Software Resriction Policy".


You posted "Add to that Flash, JAVA, IRC, IM, and other restrictions/policies."

You can't go restricting Flash and Java willy-nilly. There are reputable applications
with requirements for both.

As an example, I demonstrated Lotus SameTime which is an IM and is a Java applet and it is
a secure, corporate, solution.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


From: MEB on 7 May 2010 11:13
On 05/07/2010 06:37 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>
>
> | On 05/06/2010 10:12 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "MEB" <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com>
>
>>> | Opps, forgot another you might find useful in your review [perhaps the
>>> | graphic might give some additional direction]:
>
>>> | http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=477&uid=swg21245232
>
>
>>> SameTimes Policies are for the server and how it will work. It doesn't have to do
>>> with
>>> the software on the PC.
>
>
> | Ah okay, IT or whomever still have network policies, user policies,
> | other servers and their policies, firewalls, yada yada, ... so what are
> | you attempting to say here... or are you ignoring regular/normal
> | internal and external controls...
>
> In reference to...
>
> > Implement the "Software Resriction Policy".
>
>
> You posted "Add to that Flash, JAVA, IRC, IM, and other restrictions/policies."
>
> You can't go restricting Flash and Java willy-nilly. There are reputable applications
> with requirements for both.
>
> As an example, I demonstrated Lotus SameTime which is an IM and is a Java applet and it is
> a secure, corporate, solution.
>
>

Oh duh, my bad, I mistakenly thought you were attempting to argue/show
some INABILITY to control these things within a corporate or other
intranet {or are you?}. Though again, even there, additional
cross-checks/security layers/restrictions are available which can be
applied within the intranet [your corporate present], so I guess we both
knew/know what we were talking about, we may not still understand what
the other meant if you continue to disagree. I DID say -quote *IT or
whomever* -end quote > is "in-charge"; they're *supposed* to know and
perform the functions they are paid to do.
No application or single server/service controls the corporation, it
is the corp that is SUPPOSED to control its own intranet, hence I see
ZERO excuse for botnets and/or their control services running from
within the corporate structure as has been repeatedly exposed.

--
MEB
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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From: Martins on 10 May 2010 11:43
On May 6, 9:41 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...(a)Verizon.Net>
wrote:

> Can you please elaborate.
>

In each classroom with, say, 12 computers, I loose lots of time
cleaning or uninstalling games.

I thought there would be something similar to anti-virus but
applicable to games.

Someone tries to install a game ... the computer refuses, erases the
files, shutsdown, whatever ... keeping games out of computers.

It is a plague in environments where computers are stand-alone devices
just connected to the Internet.

Thanks
Martins
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