HDisk won't work with AMI BIOS
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From: jhewitt on 26 Jan 2006 12:44 I have an 'old' PC, 800Mhz Celeron processor and 20 Gbyte HD. The Bios is AMI 1.19 and the OS is W98 I use the PC for BT downloads and the small HD is a problem. I bought a Hitachi 80 Gbyte HD and attempted to use it in this PC. But, the BIOS won't recognize/find the new HD. When I try AUTO locate, the BIOS locks up and I have to re-boot. Tried Primary and Secondary IDE's, Mater and Slave. Swapped the position on the ribbon connectors. Nothing works. I "suspect" that I may have to flash the BIOS [ shudder ] to a later version, I don't feel happy with that, and "Desperately" Seek help and any alternatives. Can anyone provide assistance, please John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain
From: Gonzo on 26 Jan 2006 15:33 <jhewitt(a)arrakis.es> wrote in message news:pg1it15ulc48c8jmv5i1jao34pdov8p982(a)4ax.com... > I have an 'old' PC, 800Mhz Celeron processor and 20 Gbyte HD. > The Bios is AMI 1.19 and the OS is W98 > > I use the PC for BT downloads and the small HD is a problem. I bought > a Hitachi 80 Gbyte HD and attempted to use it in this PC. > > But, the BIOS won't recognize/find the new HD. When I try AUTO locate, > the BIOS locks up and I have to re-boot. Tried Primary and Secondary > IDE's, Mater and Slave. Swapped the position on the ribbon connectors. > Nothing works. > > I "suspect" that I may have to flash the BIOS [ shudder ] to a later > version, I don't feel happy with that, and "Desperately" Seek help and > any alternatives. > > Can anyone provide assistance, please > > John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain An IDE controller card might be the best option. You will also need an updated fdisk to to properly partition the drive see http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044
From: jhewitt on 29 Jan 2006 06:33 On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:33:24 -0000, "Gonzo" <nobody(a)nobody.here.net> wrote: > ><jhewitt(a)arrakis.es> wrote in message >news:pg1it15ulc48c8jmv5i1jao34pdov8p982(a)4ax.com... >> I have an 'old' PC, 800Mhz Celeron processor and 20 Gbyte HD. >> The Bios is AMI 1.19 and the OS is W98 >> >> I use the PC for BT downloads and the small HD is a problem. I bought >> a Hitachi 80 Gbyte HD and attempted to use it in this PC. >> >> But, the BIOS won't recognize/find the new HD. When I try AUTO locate, >> the BIOS locks up and I have to re-boot. Tried Primary and Secondary >> IDE's, Mater and Slave. Swapped the position on the ribbon connectors. >> Nothing works. >> >> I "suspect" that I may have to flash the BIOS [ shudder ] to a later >> version, I don't feel happy with that, and "Desperately" Seek help and >> any alternatives. >> >> Can anyone provide assistance, please >> >> John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain > >An IDE controller card might be the best option. You will also >need an updated fdisk to to properly partition the drive >see http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044 A new controller card [ that is a later model ] will permit the BIOS to 'see' the new HD, and the BIOS will then 'install' it? > John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain
From: jhewitt on 29 Jan 2006 06:42 On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC), "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless(a)crashfixpc.com> wrote: > ><jhewitt(a)arrakis.es> wrote in message >news:pg1it15ulc48c8jmv5i1jao34pdov8p982(a)4ax.com... >>I have an 'old' PC, 800Mhz Celeron processor and 20 Gbyte HD. >> The Bios is AMI 1.19 and the OS is W98 >> >> I use the PC for BT downloads and the small HD is a problem. I bought >> a Hitachi 80 Gbyte HD and attempted to use it in this PC. >> >> But, the BIOS won't recognize/find the new HD. When I try AUTO locate, >> the BIOS locks up and I have to re-boot. Tried Primary and Secondary >> IDE's, Mater and Slave. Swapped the position on the ribbon connectors. >> Nothing works. >> >> I "suspect" that I may have to flash the BIOS [ shudder ] to a later >> version, I don't feel happy with that, and "Desperately" Seek help and >> any alternatives. >> >> Can anyone provide assistance, please >> > >What is the new HD? A Hitachi Deskstar 7K80 Model Number HDS728080PLAT20 >- some have a setting to limit the HD to 32GB capacity I do not want to do that, I want to use the full 80 GB >(which your BIOS may be able to ake advantage of), and most have Drive >Overlay programs which can obviate the need for a BIOS update You mean Hitachi may have a drive overlay program. Should I look for that, 'literally', on their web site? > (even if such is available for your motherboard) AMI want nothing to do with the MB, since it's made by PcChips [ a model PC100 ]. PcChips site is kinda vague about the BIOS. I'd rather not mess with that. Thanks for the reply. John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain
From: jhewitt on 30 Jan 2006 12:46
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:24:04 +0000 (UTC), "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless(a)crashfixpc.com> wrote: > ><jhewitt(a)arrakis.es> wrote in message >news:92apt1l15g9e1igkr2dlicqcl59qf2uctq(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC), "Noel Paton" >> <NoelDPspamless(a)crashfixpc.com> wrote: >> >>> >>><jhewitt(a)arrakis.es> wrote in message >>>news:pg1it15ulc48c8jmv5i1jao34pdov8p982(a)4ax.com... >>>>I have an 'old' PC, 800Mhz Celeron processor and 20 Gbyte HD. >>>> The Bios is AMI 1.19 and the OS is W98 >>>> >>>> I use the PC for BT downloads and the small HD is a problem. I bought >>>> a Hitachi 80 Gbyte HD and attempted to use it in this PC. >>>> >>>> But, the BIOS won't recognize/find the new HD. When I try AUTO locate, >>>> the BIOS locks up and I have to re-boot. Tried Primary and Secondary >>>> IDE's, Mater and Slave. Swapped the position on the ribbon connectors. >>>> Nothing works. >>>> >>>> I "suspect" that I may have to flash the BIOS [ shudder ] to a later >>>> version, I don't feel happy with that, and "Desperately" Seek help and >>>> any alternatives. >>>> >>>> Can anyone provide assistance, please >>>> >>> >>>What is the new HD? >> >> A Hitachi Deskstar 7K80 Model Number HDS728080PLAT20 >> >>>- some have a setting to limit the HD to 32GB capacity >> >> I do not want to do that, I want to use the full 80 GB >> >>>(which your BIOS may be able to ake advantage of), and most have Drive >>>Overlay programs which can obviate the need for a BIOS update >> >> You mean Hitachi may have a drive overlay program. Should I look for >> that, 'literally', on their web site? >> >>> (even if such is available for your motherboard) >> >> AMI want nothing to do with the MB, since it's made by PcChips [ a >> model PC100 ]. PcChips site is kinda vague about the BIOS. I'd rather >> not mess with that. >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> > >It seems that Hitachi no longer use Ontrack Disk Manager (their former Drive >overlay program) - and don't distribute it, either (although the program is >available from Ontrack for a huge price!). Hmm. I installed the latest version of that program and ran it on the 'old' PC. It started out 'lookin good', but at the point where it was to install the DD Overlay, the system locked up. Tried it three times, same result each time. >Instead, they use a "Feature Tool" - which looks as if it may do the same >job in a slightly different way >http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#Installation >(please note - I have never used this program, so can't comment on it's >effectiveness!) Doesn't seem to help much. I ran the program from DOS boot on the old PC [ which is in accord with the instructions that come with the program ], it functions, but seems solely to identify the drives installed [ it 'found' the new Hitachi drive ], and gives some options re SMART and drive temp readings. It does nothing as an overlay of the BIOS, or assist to it. > >What is the exact model number of your motherboard? - if you're not sure, >try downloading and running AIDA32 from here >http://www.aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32 >and see if that pinpoints it - post the result, and I'll see what I can >find. Belarc Advisor suggests that the following is installed... BIOS: American Megatrends 062702 07/15/95 >AMI don't provide BIOS updates to end-users - and never have, that I can >recall - they provide them to the motherboard manufacturers, who are >supposed to distribute them as required, after optimising them for their >configurations. There are one or two companies who act as intermediaries >between the BIOS manufacturers and end-users, but I have no experience in >their use, and would tend to steer clear. So, based on the above results, and yr comments re IDE Controller Cards, it seems that's the next thing to try. I haven't priced the new controller cards, if they are high I may just give up [ give in? ]. Thanks for the help thus far, any further comments much appreciated. John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain |