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From: Phil Stovell on 29 Jul 2010 04:38 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:10:14 -0400, Justin wrote: > I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I > upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So I > bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole $5, > put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly. So, how > horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft? Should I be purged? > Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy gulag? > I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it. UK suppliers have been billed £2000 by MS for doing that, or a court appearance. See uk.adverts.computer, the thread starting below and several earlier threads. Some suppliers now install Ubuntu on second hand machines, rather than risk the wrath of MS. Message-ID: <96udndy5tLrKxM3RnZ2dnUVZ8k6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>
From: Homer on 29 Jul 2010 05:12 Verily I say unto thee, that Justin spake thusly: > I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I > upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. > So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a > whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works > perfectly. So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from > Microsoft? Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the > Microsoft piracy gulag? > I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it. Read the Windows EULA. "This software is licensed not sold" You are not the licensor for Windows, therefore you don't have the right to sell a Windows license. However, IIRC there was a legal case which upheld a seller's rights to sell used software under First Sale doctrine, seemingly undermining the enforceability of Microsoft's (or indeed any) EULA. Personally I'm less concerned with the fact that you possibly "violated" some highly questionable "IP" claim, and more concerned with the fact that you destroyed a perfectly good PC by infecting it with Windows. -- K. http://slated.org
From: ZnU on 29 Jul 2010 11:43 In article <8bcuvgFimdU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Homer <usenet(a)slated.org> wrote: > Verily I say unto thee, that Justin spake thusly: > > I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I > > upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. > > So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a > > whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works > > perfectly. So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from > > Microsoft? Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the > > Microsoft piracy gulag? > > I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it. > > Read the Windows EULA. > > "This software is licensed not sold" > > You are not the licensor for Windows, therefore you don't have the right > to sell a Windows license. > > However, IIRC there was a legal case which upheld a seller's rights to > sell used software under First Sale doctrine, seemingly undermining the > enforceability of Microsoft's (or indeed any) EULA. SoftMan v. Adobe. SoftMan was buying boxed "collections" of bundled apps from Adobe, and then reselling them individually. Judge ruled this was fine, on the basis that software is sold, not licensed (despite vendor claims to the contrary), so first-sale doctrine applies. But this decision was only at the district court level, and didn't consider EULA enforceability, because the EULA bound on _use_ and SoftMan never installed or used the software. In general, US court decisions on this subject are all over the map. > Personally I'm less concerned with the fact that you possibly "violated" > some highly questionable "IP" claim, and more concerned with the fact > that you destroyed a perfectly good PC by infecting it with Windows. -- "The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
From: Clogwog on 29 Jul 2010 12:45 "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> schreef in bericht news:eqDQQzpLLHA.5196(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Justin wrote: >> I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I >> upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install >> Windows. So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on >> it for a whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It >> works perfectly. >> So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft? >> Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy >> gulag? >> I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it. > > You bought a computer off eBay. That's as far as anyone should read. > What's wrong with that? I bought one for my son, very cheap, with an up to date Acronis image on board, Windows XP & Linux Mint "inside" , perfectly legal, all being paid for by the original owner! ( I bet ;-) )
From: Shenan Stanley on 29 Jul 2010 13:01
Clogwog wrote: > What's wrong with that? > I bought one for my son, very cheap, with an up to date Acronis > image on board, Windows XP & Linux Mint "inside" , perfectly legal, > all being paid for by the original owner! ( I bet ;-) ) And you trusted the installation as is? Interesting. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |