From: Clueless in Seattle on 11 Jan 2010 20:18 Thanks a million, Jack! I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions, and, Bingo! The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the files on the C: drive of the other computer. I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at the desk computer. I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave me when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add my old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to switch to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub? And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3? Or should I go back to automatic addresses? Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message. -- Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless" "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > Hi > In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related > hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be done > in order to help. > When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server > that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless > Cable/DSL Router used by many people). > The solution is to set the two computers with static IP. > As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other 192.168.1.2 > http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on 11 Jan 2010 22:04 Hi You can give the 3rd computer "Clueless in Seattle" <CluelessinSeattle(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:744120A8-B5F6-4561-A6DB-260ADD89562F(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks a million, Jack! > > I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the > prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions, > and, > Bingo! > > The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the > files > on the C: drive of the other computer. > > I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out > last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at > the > desk computer. > > I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old > hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave > me > when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add > my > old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to > switch > to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub? > And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3? > > Or should I go back to automatic addresses? > > Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer > number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine > because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message. > -- > Will in Seattle > a.k.a. "Clueless" > > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> Hi >> In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related >> hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be >> done >> in order to help. >> When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server >> that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless >> Cable/DSL Router used by many people). >> The solution is to set the two computers with static IP. >> As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other >> 192.168.1.2 >> http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking). >
From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on 11 Jan 2010 22:12 Hi You can give the 3rd computer IP 192.168.1.3. Then unplug the connection between the two computer and plug all the three into a switch. Router is needed if you have a broadband Internet connection, and you want to share the Internet connection too. In such a case the connection should look like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg However the configuration of the IPs when on a router need to take into consideration the parameters of the Router too. In most cases the Router's manual would explain How-to. If you do not have the manual, you probably can find it on the Internet by searching for the Router make and model in combination with the terms instructions manual. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking). "Clueless in Seattle" <CluelessinSeattle(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:744120A8-B5F6-4561-A6DB-260ADD89562F(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks a million, Jack! > > I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the > prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions, > and, > Bingo! > > The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the > files > on the C: drive of the other computer. > > I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out > last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at > the > desk computer. > > I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old > hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave > me > when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add > my > old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to > switch > to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub? > And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3? > > Or should I go back to automatic addresses? > > Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer > number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine > because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message. > -- > Will in Seattle > a.k.a. "Clueless" > > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> Hi >> In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related >> hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be >> done >> in order to help. >> When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server >> that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless >> Cable/DSL Router used by many people). >> The solution is to set the two computers with static IP. >> As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other >> 192.168.1.2 >> http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking). >
From: Clueless in Seattle on 14 Jan 2010 13:10 Thanks for all the help, Jack! I now have my first home network of three computers, up and running! I'm using a hub instead of the switch you recommended, since that was the first item I pulled out of the bag. Since it works, I'm hesitant to monkey with it, unless there's a compelling reason to change it. Is there any reason why a switch would serve me better than the hub I'm now using? I know that in that bag of routers, hubs and switches which I inherited from an online acquaintance, there is at least one switch that looks brand new, still in its original box, Would you recommend that I substitute the switch for the hub? -- Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless"
From: Lem on 14 Jan 2010 13:49
Clueless in Seattle wrote: > Thanks for all the help, Jack! > > I now have my first home network of three computers, up and running! > > I'm using a hub instead of the switch you recommended, since that was the > first item I pulled out of the bag. Since it works, I'm hesitant to monkey > with it, unless there's a compelling reason to change it. > > Is there any reason why a switch would serve me better than the hub I'm now > using? I know that in that bag of routers, hubs and switches which I > inherited from an online acquaintance, there is at least one switch that > looks brand new, still in its original box, > > Would you recommend that I substitute the switch for the hub? A switch is "smarter" than a hub and thus generally faster and less prone to packet collisions: http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/hubsw.htm With only 3 computers, it probably doesn't matter which you use. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html |