From: Clueless in Seattle on
Thanks a million, Jack!

I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the
prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions, and,
Bingo!

The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the files
on the C: drive of the other computer.

I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out
last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at the
desk computer.

I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old
hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave me
when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add my
old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to switch
to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub?
And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3?

Or should I go back to automatic addresses?

Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer
number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine
because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message.
--
Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"


"Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote:

> Hi
> In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related
> hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be done
> in order to help.
> When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server
> that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless
> Cable/DSL Router used by many people).
> The solution is to set the two computers with static IP.
> As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other 192.168.1.2
> http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).

From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on
Hi
You can give the 3rd computer
"Clueless in Seattle" <CluelessinSeattle(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:744120A8-B5F6-4561-A6DB-260ADD89562F(a)microsoft.com...
> Thanks a million, Jack!
>
> I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the
> prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions,
> and,
> Bingo!
>
> The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the
> files
> on the C: drive of the other computer.
>
> I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out
> last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at
> the
> desk computer.
>
> I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old
> hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave
> me
> when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add
> my
> old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to
> switch
> to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub?
> And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3?
>
> Or should I go back to automatic addresses?
>
> Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer
> number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine
> because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message.
> --
> Will in Seattle
> a.k.a. "Clueless"
>
>
> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related
>> hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be
>> done
>> in order to help.
>> When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server
>> that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless
>> Cable/DSL Router used by many people).
>> The solution is to set the two computers with static IP.
>> As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other
>> 192.168.1.2
>> http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp
>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>

From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on
Hi
You can give the 3rd computer IP 192.168.1.3.
Then unplug the connection between the two computer and plug all the three
into a switch.
Router is needed if you have a broadband Internet connection, and you want
to share the Internet connection too.
In such a case the connection should look like this,
http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg
However the configuration of the IPs when on a router need to take into
consideration the parameters of the Router too.
In most cases the Router's manual would explain How-to. If you do not have
the manual, you probably can find it on the Internet by searching for the
Router make and model in combination with the terms instructions manual.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).

"Clueless in Seattle" <CluelessinSeattle(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:744120A8-B5F6-4561-A6DB-260ADD89562F(a)microsoft.com...
> Thanks a million, Jack!
>
> I entered those two IP addresses on my two machines, then followed the
> prompts in a network wizard that popped up, gave Ashampoo permissions,
> and,
> Bingo!
>
> The computers are now networked. From each computer I can now see the
> files
> on the C: drive of the other computer.
>
> I really needed to get this working. I injured by back when I passed out
> last month and I'm having much more difficulty than usual sitting up at
> the
> desk computer.
>
> I hope you'll stick with me for one more question. I have a bag of old
> hand-me-down routers, switches and hubs that an online acquaintance gave
> me
> when he was cleaning house a few months back. I'd like to now try to add
> my
> old laptop with the dead screen to the network. I know I'll have to
> switch
> to straight through cables. But should I use a router, a switch or a hub?
> And should I give the third computer the address 192.168.1.3?
>
> Or should I go back to automatic addresses?
>
> Oh, yeah, one more thing: Does it matter if the XP system is computer
> number 1 in the network? I gave the address number 1 to the 2K machine
> because that was the one I was sitting at when I got your message.
> --
> Will in Seattle
> a.k.a. "Clueless"
>
>
> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> In lack of comprehensive description concerning all the Network related
>> hardware and how they are connected there is Not too much that can be
>> done
>> in order to help.
>> When you connect two computers with crossover cable there No DHCP server
>> that can assign Auto. IPs (In most cease it is a function of a Wireless
>> Cable/DSL Router used by many people).
>> The solution is to set the two computers with static IP.
>> As an example one computer should be 192.168.1.1 and the other
>> 192.168.1.2
>> http://www.hotcomm.com/faq/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp
>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>

From: Clueless in Seattle on
Thanks for all the help, Jack!

I now have my first home network of three computers, up and running!

I'm using a hub instead of the switch you recommended, since that was the
first item I pulled out of the bag. Since it works, I'm hesitant to monkey
with it, unless there's a compelling reason to change it.

Is there any reason why a switch would serve me better than the hub I'm now
using? I know that in that bag of routers, hubs and switches which I
inherited from an online acquaintance, there is at least one switch that
looks brand new, still in its original box,

Would you recommend that I substitute the switch for the hub?
--
Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"

From: Lem on
Clueless in Seattle wrote:
> Thanks for all the help, Jack!
>
> I now have my first home network of three computers, up and running!
>
> I'm using a hub instead of the switch you recommended, since that was the
> first item I pulled out of the bag. Since it works, I'm hesitant to monkey
> with it, unless there's a compelling reason to change it.
>
> Is there any reason why a switch would serve me better than the hub I'm now
> using? I know that in that bag of routers, hubs and switches which I
> inherited from an online acquaintance, there is at least one switch that
> looks brand new, still in its original box,
>
> Would you recommend that I substitute the switch for the hub?

A switch is "smarter" than a hub and thus generally faster and less
prone to packet collisions: http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/hubsw.htm

With only 3 computers, it probably doesn't matter which you use.

--
Lem

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