From: David W. Hodgins on
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:02:52 -0500, The Central Scrutinizer <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Please ignore everything about this post...
> Whoa!!!

Please clarify. Are you suggesting Bill is correct in saying
m$ should be trusted to provide and maintain good anti-virus
software, or are you agreeing with me that their history has
demonstrated, that they are not capable of doing so?

Also, Please trim articles you are replying to, to only the
parts you are replying to, and then add your responses to
after the parts you are replying to.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: David H. Lipman on
From: "Char Jackson" <none(a)none.invalid>

| On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:36:44 -0600, Bill <wsblevins(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>>In article <op.u7um8m2da3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net>,
>>dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org says...
>>> Are you suggesting Bill is correct in saying
>>> m$ should be trusted to provide and maintain good anti-virus
>>> software


>>I'll chime in here. I took a brief look at some independent comparative
>>tests, which would conclude that MS Security Essentials Anti-Virus would
>>be adequate for most people's needs. No AV product is completely
>>effective without some common sense being used. Personally, I choose to
>>use NOD32 because I have used it for years and don't mind paying for it.
>>As for a firewall, the one included with Windows 7 does just fine
>>according to tests performed at Shields Up on the grc.com website. It's
>>fully stealth, and that's good enough for me.

| If you're using a router, as many of us do, then Shields Up is testing
| your router rather than your Windows firewall.


+1

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From: Bad Boy Charlie on

>
>| If you're using a router, as many of us do, then Shields Up is testing
>| your router rather than your Windows firewall.
>
>
>+1

+1 here too. Hard to believe I agree with Lipman on this one!! :)
From: The Central Scrutinizer on
"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:op.u7um8m2da3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net...
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:02:52 -0500, The Central Scrutinizer
> <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please ignore everything about this post...
>> Whoa!!!
>
> Please clarify. Are you suggesting Bill is correct in saying
> m$ should be trusted to provide and maintain good anti-virus

I am saying you appear to be a whacky nut-job that thinks MS is incapable of
having an AV product because of who they are.

> software, or are you agreeing with me that their history has
> demonstrated, that they are not capable of doing so?

And you just proved my point.

> Also, Please trim articles you are replying to, to only the
> parts you are replying to, and then add your responses to
> after the parts you are replying to.

Hey pal I am the central scrutinizer not you OK. I'll tell you what
to trim and what not to trim. You dig?

> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
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From: The Central Scrutinizer on
"Char Jackson" <none(a)none.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:36:44 -0600, Bill <wsblevins(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I'll chime in here. I took a brief look at some independent comparative
>>tests, which would conclude that MS Security Essentials Anti-Virus would
>>be adequate for most people's needs. No AV product is completely
>>effective without some common sense being used. Personally, I choose to
>>use NOD32 because I have used it for years and don't mind paying for it.
>>As for a firewall, the one included with Windows 7 does just fine
>>according to tests performed at Shields Up on the grc.com website. It's
>>fully stealth, and that's good enough for me.
>
> If you're using a router, as many of us do, then Shields Up is testing
> your router rather than your Windows firewall.

And that matters how? Or are you just pointing out a detail or nit because
he
referenced the windows firewall when the action may well be going through
the router? Please point out one example where the windows firewall being
enabled was a problem in that it allowed inappropriate access.