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From: Bernd Felsche on 29 Nov 2009 21:43
>Anton Ertl <anton(a)mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>>>Fortunately, I'd neither to take my TV nor my LCD to an
>>>unexpected forced reboot yet. The complexity still remains low
>>>enough to keep the software robust.
>>My >10 years old TV set occasionally needs a soft or hard power
>>cycle, especially in connection with using teletext.
>My cheap Microsoft optical mouse crashed and rebooted a few weeks
>back. It then crashed and wouldn't come back, so I power cycled
>it by pulling the USB plug out, and it has worked since :-)
>All right, that WAS a good enough story to tell at work - even our
>hardware service people had not seen that one!
>I suspect memory corruption, making the assumption that mice don't
>use ECC ....
Could be a virus. Keyboards have been known to be hackable.
They contain microcontrollers with flash memory. Only a matter of
time before somebody installs their own code.
Everything is a computer now; pretending to be an appliance.
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From: Anton Ertl on 30 Nov 2009 04:58
Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan(a)gmx.de> writes:
>Anton Ertl wrote:
>> from Windows, a problem of such monitors is how to drive them. You
>> need two dual-link DVI ports, and I found it already pretty
>> challenging to get hardware and software to work for my 2560x1600
>Fortunately, there's now DisplayPort 1.2; with four lanes, it can drive
>4k by 2560.
But which graphics card has that and can do that? Sounds to me like
reliving the dual-link DVI experience: First having to find a card
that supports dual-link DVI, and then one that also supports the whole
resolution; I have a Radeon X850XT at home that has two dual-link DVI
connectors, but supports only up to 2048x1536. Also, of the two
graphics cards I bought after my 30" monitor (which has DisplayPort
among other connectors), none has DisplayPort.
>The 30" screens are particularly challenging to drive, because they
>usually have no scaler inside, so you have to get everything right to
Do you mean "scaler" as in blowing the picture up to full screen? My
Dell 3008WFP can scale, and some of the things it does are quite
impressive: I have a picture of picture-by-picture mode (two computers
displaying on the same monitor, each getting a 1280x1600 half-screen),
with one half being driven in 1920x1440 scaled down to 1280x960. The
result was still surprisingly readable.
I also have the impression that some graphics cards (in particular, an
Nvidia 8600 based card I tried) scale the picture in the graphics
card: Even when I asked the monitor for 1:1 display (which worked as
intended with other graphics cards), I got a scaled-up image from
M. Anton Ertl Some things have to be seen to be believed
anton(a)mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at Most things have to be believed to be seen
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_J=F8rgen_Kruse?= on 30 Nov 2009 14:54
> In article <1j9yr3x.1qkn41jucv84uN%nospam(a)ab-katrinedal.dk>,
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_J=F8rgen_Kruse?= <nospam(a)ab-katrinedal.dk> wrote:
> >> My cheap Microsoft optical mouse crashed and rebooted a few weeks
> >> back. It then crashed and wouldn't come back, so I power cycled
> >> it by pulling the USB plug out, and it has worked since :-)
> >What made you decide that it was the mouse?
> >Couldn't it have been corruption on the host side?
> Possible, but unlikely. When it crashed, the light went out, it
> flickered as it rebooted, and then came back steady. When it
> failed to reboot, it continued to flicker.
A reboot should take no longer than when the mouse is first plugged in.
I have never come across a wired mouse with any perceptible delay from
being plugged in to being usable.
Mvh./Regards, Niels J�rgen Kruse, Vanl�se, Denmark
From: Noob on 1 Dec 2009 07:17
Peter Grandi wrote:
> The extreme case I have seen so far is that coworker who used a
> tiny font on a large monitor, with a maximized editor window 400
> columns wide (and 200 high). I asked him what was the point, and
> he said that with very long lines he would write many C functions
> entirely on one line, and he could often write a whole module
> that would fit in one screenful too.
> Had to spend several days reformatting and indenting his code.
From: Bernd Paysan on 1 Dec 2009 13:33
Anton Ertl wrote:
>>Fortunately, there's now DisplayPort 1.2; with four lanes, it can
>>drive 4k by 2560.
> But which graphics card has that and can do that?
AFAIK none at the moment. From the spec, it looks like even the newest
ATI 5x cards (which fully embrace DisplayPort) currently only has
DisplayPort 1.1 on chip - 6 in total, each of them carries 4 TMDS
transmitters, and they spec it up to 2560x1600, i.e. "only" DisplayPort
1.1, limited to 1.62GHz symbol rate. At least their "Eyefinity"
technology would make it possible to just use several DisplayPorts
> Sounds to me like
> reliving the dual-link DVI experience: First having to find a card
> that supports dual-link DVI, and then one that also supports the whole
> resolution; I have a Radeon X850XT at home that has two dual-link DVI
> connectors, but supports only up to 2048x1536. Also, of the two
> graphics cards I bought after my 30" monitor (which has DisplayPort
> among other connectors), none has DisplayPort.
I've two unused PCIe-DisplayPort lying around...
BTW: Your Dell apparently is currently the only 30" monitor which *has*
DisplayPort... all the others are DL-DVI only...
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