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From: gts² blue on 25 Apr 2005 22:18 [Dunno how important this is, but....] I am using an "IBM COMPATIBLE" replacement battery (Li-Ion) which ran out of power (Stopped Charging/Discharging) back in Sept 2004. i was told by a few people that I wouldn't need to buy another replacement for it and it's been fine {And I've been using it, still, w/ the battery and plugged in on AC power. Works fine - I was leery of doing that myself - some other people had said doing that could mess with the power settings. Anyway.....). Tho suddenly - yesterday I noticed the battery was charging again. [I noticed this as I shut down, which prompted me to restart to make sure I wasn't seeing thngs, and also to chek out the battery info on the machine itself thru the ThinkPad Utilitty or whatever it 's called. I was kinda glad that the battery started holding a charge but if that has something to do with the fan error, then that kinda sucks. lol -Geraldine
From: BillW50 on 26 Apr 2005 02:49 "gts2 blue" <gts2blue(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1114481936.444219.327260(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... Date: 25 Apr 2005 19:18:56 -0700 [Dunno how important this is, but....] Hi Gerri... I am using an "IBM COMPATIBLE" replacement battery (Li-Ion) which ran out of power (Stopped Charging/Discharging) back in Sept 2004. i was told by a few people that I wouldn't need to buy another replacement for it and it's been fine {And I've been using it, still, w/ the battery and plugged in on AC power. Works fine - I was leery of doing that myself - some other people had said doing that could mess with the power settings. Power setting? No I don't see that at all. I think they know something of what they are talking about, but not enough. Although the one thing I am very good about are rechargeable batteries. I still have some that are 30 years old (I orginally typed 30 days old, that's funny). Which is unheard of even on the Internet. Rechargeable lithiums have lasted me 10 years now (almost all experts gives them two years). Although none are from laptops and I'm always learning. And I think I figured out how to get laptop lithiums to last at least 10 years too. Well if you use battery power a lot, kiss that 10 year idea goodbye! As under heavy battery use, 6 months is doing really well. First of all, laptops with lithiums are differnet than other devices like PDAs, cell phones, etc. As these other devices don't create lots of heat unlike laptops do. So I had to adjust for laptops because the heat factor changes everything. In short, keep your laptop battery out of your laptop as much as possible. As the heat alone will kill it in 2 years or less. You have to charge it at least once per year if you don't use it. Although charging it say monthy I don't see it harming anything. It's best if the computer is off while charging (less heat). Sometimes when you think the power is going to fail (like a bad storm is coming), you should insert the battery (unless you are plugged into a UPS). Leaving an almost dead battery in the laptop is a bad idea in my opinion (or even a good battery on AC power). As not only do you get the heat from the laptop itself, but the current charging a battery that is weak also adds lots more more heat and it is self defeating. Anyway.....). Tho suddenly - yesterday I noticed the battery was charging again. [I noticed this as I shut down, which prompted me to restart to make sure I wasn't seeing thngs, and also to chek out the battery info on the machine itself thru the ThinkPad Utilitty or whatever it 's called. I was kinda glad that the battery started holding a charge but if that has something to do with the fan error, then that kinda sucks. lol Oh gosh Gerri... since September it was dead and now it is taking a charge? In everything I have read and all of my experience this is unheard of for a lithium battery. You may become famous! The only thing I can explain it is that this is the first time the battery is actually cooled? Do you think this is so? How this ties into the fan error... well I don't see the connection. But of course I don't know everything and I have been fooled before. I don't see you as an engineer type and forgive me if I'm wrong. But if you or your spouse or whomever can work a multimeter, I'd like to hear about some voltage checks. As what you have found is something new and really exciting to me at least. <grin> Cheers! __________________________________________________ Bill (using a Toshiba 2595XDVD under Windows 2000) -- written and edited within WordStar 5.0
From: gts² blue on 26 Apr 2005 08:14 I'm not the engineer type. :) So - what's a multimeter? (never heard of one before. lol) Like a 'Battery Tester"? I wasn't sure if my battery had anything to do w/ it, but I figured I'd throw the idea out here in case it did. Oh yeah - and - I posted the problem here after i had it once, coz I wasn't sure if that meant you got the error once and that was it or something. But considering how computers work. :)
From: gts² blue on 26 Apr 2005 08:53 =P I unplugged my machine when the battery hit 100%. It ran for 5 mins before I got a critical battery error. See - I've gotten conflicting advice from people. Some people have said it's OK to leave the battery in, others have said the IBM is made to run w/o a battery pack. Some have wondered why you'd run a laptop plugged in w/o a battery in fear of getting dirt/etc on the connectors and whatnot. Confusing........lol
From: gts² blue on 26 Apr 2005 08:55 .....And in fact, it's charging up again - the Li-Ion battery. -GERRI-
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