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From: glee on 24 Apr 2010 00:24
"William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ueMcHUy4KHA.4264(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> JD wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> Problem is, UNk, that the Languages Bar is grayed out
>>> and therefore I can't select it. I went back and restored
>>> one of my old clones, and there the bar is a selectable
>>> option, and the toolbar indicator/selector is present.
>>> I think I have to reactivate one of the "services" that
>>> John had me disable. But which one??
>>>
>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>> Did you click the language bar button in regional/languages
>>>> details?
>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OO9$jUx4KHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I used to be able to select from several languages
>>>>> (English, French, German,) for keyboard input with
>>>>> a little En, Fr, De icon selectable in my lower
>>>>> taskbar. That seems to have gone away, following our
>>>>> extensive effort in modifying services. I did all
>>>>> switching by double- clicking on the icon, to get
>>>>> the various language abbreviations to appear as a
>>>>> menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried Start>>Control Panel>>Regional and Languages
>>>>> but that sets hot key selection and I like the taskbar.
>>>>> "Help" doesn't seem to lead me there either......
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Not sure if this will help:
>>
>> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Remove-Language-Bar-t2783.html
>>
>> If it doesn't restore the bar you're looking for then check to see if
>> it's something related to your keyboard?
>>
> Clone system recalled, is working perfectly. Same keyboard.
> On master system, recently repaired the hibernate function, now
> it doesn't seem to know there are other languages available.


First, click Start> Run, type the following and click OK:
msconfig

Click the Startup tab and make sure ctfmon is listed there and is
check-marked....if it is not check-marked, check it, click OK and
restart.

Then go to Control Panel> Regional and Language Options> Languages tab>
Details button > Advanced tab:
Remove the check-mark from "Turn Off Advanced Text Services"
Click OK all the way out.

Then go back and see if the Language Bar button is still greyed out at
Regional and Language Options> Languages tab> Details button > Settings
tab
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

From: William B. Lurie on 24 Apr 2010 08:26
glee wrote:
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ueMcHUy4KHA.4264(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> JD wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> Problem is, UNk, that the Languages Bar is grayed out
>>>> and therefore I can't select it. I went back and restored
>>>> one of my old clones, and there the bar is a selectable
>>>> option, and the toolbar indicator/selector is present.
>>>> I think I have to reactivate one of the "services" that
>>>> John had me disable. But which one??
>>>>
>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>> Did you click the language bar button in regional/languages details?
>>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OO9$jUx4KHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I used to be able to select from several languages
>>>>>> (English, French, German,) for keyboard input with
>>>>>> a little En, Fr, De icon selectable in my lower
>>>>>> taskbar. That seems to have gone away, following our
>>>>>> extensive effort in modifying services. I did all
>>>>>> switching by double- clicking on the icon, to get
>>>>>> the various language abbreviations to appear as a
>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried Start>>Control Panel>>Regional and Languages
>>>>>> but that sets hot key selection and I like the taskbar.
>>>>>> "Help" doesn't seem to lead me there either......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if this will help:
>>>
>>> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Remove-Language-Bar-t2783.html
>>>
>>> If it doesn't restore the bar you're looking for then check to see if
>>> it's something related to your keyboard?
>>>
>> Clone system recalled, is working perfectly. Same keyboard.
>> On master system, recently repaired the hibernate function, now
>> it doesn't seem to know there are other languages available.
>
>
> First, click Start> Run, type the following and click OK:
> msconfig
>
> Click the Startup tab and make sure ctfmon is listed there and is
> check-marked....if it is not check-marked, check it, click OK and restart.
>
> Then go to Control Panel> Regional and Language Options> Languages tab>
> Details button > Advanced tab:
> Remove the check-mark from "Turn Off Advanced Text Services"
> Click OK all the way out.
>
> Then go back and see if the Language Bar button is still greyed out at
> Regional and Language Options> Languages tab> Details button > Settings tab

Okay, Glee.......ctfmon is *not* listed in the Startup list,
so I can't proceed past Square-One. There are three items in
the list, with nothing in the column where 'ctfmon' should
be, all are checked, and all read
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
but I know no more about them.

BTW....ctfmon is not shown in my Task Manager.

What next?
From: William B. Lurie on 24 Apr 2010 08:35
William B. Lurie wrote:
> glee wrote:
>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:ueMcHUy4KHA.4264(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> JD wrote:
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> Problem is, UNk, that the Languages Bar is grayed out
>>>>> and therefore I can't select it. I went back and restored
>>>>> one of my old clones, and there the bar is a selectable
>>>>> option, and the toolbar indicator/selector is present.
>>>>> I think I have to reactivate one of the "services" that
>>>>> John had me disable. But which one??
>>>>>
>>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>>> Did you click the language bar button in regional/languages details?
>>>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OO9$jUx4KHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I used to be able to select from several languages
>>>>>>> (English, French, German,) for keyboard input with
>>>>>>> a little En, Fr, De icon selectable in my lower
>>>>>>> taskbar. That seems to have gone away, following our
>>>>>>> extensive effort in modifying services. I did all
>>>>>>> switching by double- clicking on the icon, to get
>>>>>>> the various language abbreviations to appear as a
>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried Start>>Control Panel>>Regional and Languages
>>>>>>> but that sets hot key selection and I like the taskbar.
>>>>>>> "Help" doesn't seem to lead me there either......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if this will help:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Remove-Language-Bar-t2783.html
>>>>
>>>> If it doesn't restore the bar you're looking for then check to see
>>>> if it's something related to your keyboard?
>>>>
>>> Clone system recalled, is working perfectly. Same keyboard.
>>> On master system, recently repaired the hibernate function, now
>>> it doesn't seem to know there are other languages available.
>>
>>
>> First, click Start> Run, type the following and click OK:
>> msconfig
>>
>> Click the Startup tab and make sure ctfmon is listed there and is
>> check-marked....if it is not check-marked, check it, click OK and
>> restart.
>>
>> Then go to Control Panel> Regional and Language Options> Languages
>> tab> Details button > Advanced tab:
>> Remove the check-mark from "Turn Off Advanced Text Services"
>> Click OK all the way out.
>>
>> Then go back and see if the Language Bar button is still greyed out at
>> Regional and Language Options> Languages tab> Details button >
>> Settings tab
>
> Okay, Glee.......ctfmon is *not* listed in the Startup list,
> so I can't proceed past Square-One. There are three items in
> the list, with nothing in the column where 'ctfmon' should
> be, all are checked, and all read
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
> but I know no more about them.
>
> BTW....ctfmon is not shown in my Task Manager.
>
> What next?
Glen, I figured it wouldn't hurt if I removed the check mark
from "turn Off Advanced Text Services" so I did so, and
backed out, and Kanguage Bar button isn't grayed out, so I
clicked it and backed out all the way, and now the "EN" is back
in my lower toolbar.

I'll reboot and check that everything is working right, and
thank you so much. You guys are *great*.
From: glee on 24 Apr 2010 09:35
"William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
news:Os5YSq64KHA.4520(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> glee wrote:
>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ueMcHUy4KHA.4264(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> Problem is, UNk, that the Languages Bar is grayed out
>>>>>> and therefore I can't select it. I went back and restored
>>>>>> one of my old clones, and there the bar is a selectable
>>>>>> option, and the toolbar indicator/selector is present.
>>>>>> I think I have to reactivate one of the "services" that
>>>>>> John had me disable. But which one??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OO9$jUx4KHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> I used to be able to select from several languages
>>>>>>>> (English, French, German,) for keyboard input with
>>>>>>>> a little En, Fr, De icon selectable in my lower
>>>>>>>> taskbar. That seems to have gone away, following our
>>>>>>>> extensive effort in modifying services. I did all
>>>>>>>> switching by double- clicking on the icon, to get
>>>>>>>> the various language abbreviations to appear as a
>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried Start>>Control Panel>>Regional and Languages
>>>>>>>> but that sets hot key selection and I like the taskbar.
>>>>>>>> "Help" doesn't seem to lead me there either......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First, click Start> Run, type the following and click OK:
>>> msconfig
>>>
>>> Click the Startup tab and make sure ctfmon is listed there and is
>>> check-marked....if it is not check-marked, check it, click OK and
>>> restart.
>>>
>>> Then go to Control Panel> Regional and Language Options> Languages
>>> tab> Details button > Advanced tab:
>>> Remove the check-mark from "Turn Off Advanced Text Services"
>>> Click OK all the way out.
>>>
>>> Then go back and see if the Language Bar button is still greyed out
>>> at Regional and Language Options> Languages tab> Details button >
>>> Settings tab
>>
>> Okay, Glee.......ctfmon is *not* listed in the Startup list,
>> so I can't proceed past Square-One. There are three items in
>> the list, with nothing in the column where 'ctfmon' should
>> be, all are checked, and all read
>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
>> but I know no more about them.
>>
>> BTW....ctfmon is not shown in my Task Manager.
>>
>> What next?
> Glen, I figured it wouldn't hurt if I removed the check mark
> from "turn Off Advanced Text Services" so I did so, and
> backed out, and Kanguage Bar button isn't grayed out, so I
> clicked it and backed out all the way, and now the "EN" is back
> in my lower toolbar.
>
> I'll reboot and check that everything is working right, and
> thank you so much. You guys are *great*.

Glad it worked for you...may all your problems be so easy!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

From: William B. Lurie on 24 Apr 2010 09:42
glee wrote:
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:Os5YSq64KHA.4520(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> glee wrote:
>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ueMcHUy4KHA.4264(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>> Problem is, UNk, that the Languages Bar is grayed out
>>>>>>> and therefore I can't select it. I went back and restored
>>>>>>> one of my old clones, and there the bar is a selectable
>>>>>>> option, and the toolbar indicator/selector is present.
>>>>>>> I think I have to reactivate one of the "services" that
>>>>>>> John had me disable. But which one??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OO9$jUx4KHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> I used to be able to select from several languages
>>>>>>>>> (English, French, German,) for keyboard input with
>>>>>>>>> a little En, Fr, De icon selectable in my lower
>>>>>>>>> taskbar. That seems to have gone away, following our
>>>>>>>>> extensive effort in modifying services. I did all
>>>>>>>>> switching by double- clicking on the icon, to get
>>>>>>>>> the various language abbreviations to appear as a
>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried Start>>Control Panel>>Regional and Languages
>>>>>>>>> but that sets hot key selection and I like the taskbar.
>>>>>>>>> "Help" doesn't seem to lead me there either......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First, click Start> Run, type the following and click OK:
>>>> msconfig
>>>>
>>>> Click the Startup tab and make sure ctfmon is listed there and is
>>>> check-marked....if it is not check-marked, check it, click OK and
>>>> restart.
>>>>
>>>> Then go to Control Panel> Regional and Language Options> Languages
>>>> tab> Details button > Advanced tab:
>>>> Remove the check-mark from "Turn Off Advanced Text Services"
>>>> Click OK all the way out.
>>>>
>>>> Then go back and see if the Language Bar button is still greyed out
>>>> at Regional and Language Options> Languages tab> Details button >
>>>> Settings tab
>>>
>>> Okay, Glee.......ctfmon is *not* listed in the Startup list,
>>> so I can't proceed past Square-One. There are three items in
>>> the list, with nothing in the column where 'ctfmon' should
>>> be, all are checked, and all read
>>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
>>> but I know no more about them.
>>>
>>> BTW....ctfmon is not shown in my Task Manager.
>>>
>>> What next?
>> Glen, I figured it wouldn't hurt if I removed the check mark
>> from "turn Off Advanced Text Services" so I did so, and
>> backed out, and Language Bar button isn't grayed out, so I
>> clicked it and backed out all the way, and now the "EN" is back
>> in my lower toolbar.
>>
>> I'll reboot and check that everything is working right, and
>> thank you so much. You guys are *great*.
>
> Glad it worked for you...may all your problems be so easy!

BTW.....one of those formerly 'blank' items in Startup now
is identified as CTFMON.....and is checked. And I made a new clone.
As a by-product, I have a few new icons in the toolbar alongside
'EN'...a microphone, a 'speech tools', a '?' labeled Help and
a 'Restore'. I don't need them, but they don't hurt anything, so
they can just stay there.
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