From: Arthur Entlich on


Arthur Entlich wrote:
> According to HP's website this printer can print at (as almost every
> laser printer I've ever owned or worked with) numerous resolutions.
>
> In the case of the 4MP those resolutions listed are: 75, 150, 3000 and
> 600 dpi.
>

That was supposed to read 75, 150, *300* and 600dpi


> Sounds like the driver you have is not offering the full capabilities.
>
> According to the HP website with the standard internal memory (which I
> believe is 1 meg) can print up to a full page of graphics at 300 dpi.
> However, with MEt even higher resolution may be possible without added
> memory with graphics, however, the performance may be downgraded.
>
> I wonder if you have some bad or incompatable memory, of if it needs to
> be removed and reinsterted due to bad connections.
>
> Art
>
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> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
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>
> William R. Walsh wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> Use with a scanner to copy documents is excruciatingly slow.
>>
>> Which absolutely does not come as a surprise. You're making a very tall
>> demand of this printer.
>>
>> Specifically, the processor in the printer has to take the data coming in
>> from the parallel port and figure out (I believe "rasterize" is the
>> correct
>> term) what to do to draw it on the drum and get it on the page.
>>
>> This takes time, especially for graphics that are sent in bit-mapped
>> form.
>>
>>> Printer has 18MB of ram.
>>
>> You can have all the RAM you want, and the printer won't go any
>> faster. Its
>> processor only goes so fast, and more memory cannot make it go faster.
>>
>>> Doesn't seem to be any way to use less than 600dpi resolution.
>>
>> There may not be one.
>>
>>> HP website doesn't even mention win7. Claims that vista has all the
>> driver you'll ever get.
>>
>> Vista drivers ought to work fine on Windows 7 for the most part,
>> especially
>> for something like a printer. (This statement excludes all host-based
>> printers, which your LaserJet 4MP is *not*.)
>>
>> If you can't lower the quality of the output (and you probably can't go
>> below 300 dpi anyway), you may need a printer with a much faster
>> processor
>> onboard.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
From: Barry Watzman on
Forget about theory, in actual practice, many parallel ports can only
transfer as few as about 5,000 bytes per second. That is 3 MINUTES per
megabyte, roughly. At 600 dpi, you should be sending about 4 megabytes,
so up to 12 minutes might be necessary (there is no reason why you
should be sending 25 megabytes per page).

Suggestion: Get a USB printer, or get a used Laserjet 4 or 5 and the
"Jet Direct" (Ethernet) card and use Ethernet. Anything instead of a
parallel port.


mike wrote:
> Laserjet 4MP but same problem with 4L.
> Windows 7, but same problem in xp.
> 2.8GHZ P4 desktop computer.
>
> Printing text is acceptable.
> But when printing graphics, it can take 5 minutes
> to print a page. Use with a scanner to copy
> documents is excruciatingly slow.
> Printer has 18MB of ram.
>
> The driver insists on sending 25MB of data,
> according to the print monitor.
> But the parallel port should be able to do
> this in half a minute.
> Doesn't seem to be any way to use less
> than 600dpi resolution.
>
> HP website doesn't even mention win7. Claims
> that vista has all the driver you'll ever get.
>
> Is there anything I can do with the driver
> or configuration to make this go a LOT faster?
> I rarely need 600dpi. 150dpi would work fine
> for most of what I do...just can't find a place
> to change it.
>
> Thanks, mike
From: LLCoolG on
Is that 5 min of spooling?

Do you have the printer set to print now instead of wait until spooled? (I
forget the actual language)
From: Alan on
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:56:41 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote:

>Laserjet 4MP but same problem with 4L.
>Windows 7, but same problem in xp.
>2.8GHZ P4 desktop computer.
>
>Printing text is acceptable.
>But when printing graphics, it can take 5 minutes
>to print a page. Use with a scanner to copy
>documents is excruciatingly slow.
>Printer has 18MB of ram.
>
>The driver insists on sending 25MB of data,
>according to the print monitor.
>But the parallel port should be able to do
>this in half a minute.
>Doesn't seem to be any way to use less
>than 600dpi resolution.
>
>HP website doesn't even mention win7. Claims
>that vista has all the driver you'll ever get.
>
>Is there anything I can do with the driver
>or configuration to make this go a LOT faster?
>I rarely need 600dpi. 150dpi would work fine
>for most of what I do...just can't find a place
>to change it.
>
>Thanks, mike


Sounds like a software problem with whatever you're using to scan and
print. Try scanning to a bunch of files and then printing those with
various apps.
You can reduce the resolution of the images using, e.g. Irfanview,
which can do a batch of files at once. It's also pretty flexible for
printing.

Also you don't say what driver you're using. If it's mostly bitmaps,
probably the PCL driver rather than the PS will be faster and require
less data to be transmitted.

Also the 4MP should come standard with an Ethernet port (on a
Jetdirect card, it can be removed though). If you have that try it
connected to your router as a network printer instead of the parallel
port.

From: Alan on
One other factor:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:56:41 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote:
>Printer has 18MB of ram.
>
>The driver insists on sending 25MB of data,
>according to the print monitor.


Have you put the amount of memory in the printer device settings in
Windows? Windows has no way to know otherwise that you have 18MB of
RAM and will use as default the minimum shipped (2MB + 4MB on the PS
SIMM). Which means it will send data to the printer in dribs and drabs
so as not to overflow the small amount of memory it assumes.