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From: Bill on 1 Jun 2010 18:49 "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9D8AB17D96AD6f99a49ed1d0c49c5bbb2(a)74.209.136.100... > =?Utf-8?B?RnJlZA==?= <Fred(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > news:2500C9A5-F9E9-49B6-AD28-75FAB9610BF0(a)microsoft.com: > >> The experts have been focusing on the technical aspects (news >> group vs web interface) but I think that what's more key is an >> Access-focused forum/newsgroup, with some subdivisions, and >> knowing that most people that are asking a question will need a >> web site / web interface. > > I vote for a single newsgroup with no subdivisions at all. > > -- > David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ > usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ No, "Access", "Forms", "Formscoding" and "Reports" are the four sub-divisions that have served us well. And, as Bob posted, there are many NNTP servers out there, that as far as I've been able to determine, have no intention of dropping the Microsoft.Public.* newsgroups. Bill
From: david on 1 Jun 2010 23:32 I could quibble with your selection of the 4 groups, but the main thing you missed is "queries". microsoft.public.queries is a fairly busy group, carrying mostly stuff not handled in the other groups. (david) "Bill" <mlharding(a)jps.net> wrote in message news:mL2dnQM_lt31EpjRnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:Xns9D8AB17D96AD6f99a49ed1d0c49c5bbb2(a)74.209.136.100... >> =?Utf-8?B?RnJlZA==?= <Fred(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> news:2500C9A5-F9E9-49B6-AD28-75FAB9610BF0(a)microsoft.com: >> >>> The experts have been focusing on the technical aspects (news >>> group vs web interface) but I think that what's more key is an >>> Access-focused forum/newsgroup, with some subdivisions, and >>> knowing that most people that are asking a question will need a >>> web site / web interface. >> >> I vote for a single newsgroup with no subdivisions at all. >> >> -- >> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ >> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ > > No, "Access", "Forms", "Formscoding" and "Reports" are the four > sub-divisions that have served us well. And, as Bob posted, there > are many NNTP servers out there, that as far as I've been able to > determine, have no intention of dropping the Microsoft.Public.* > newsgroups. > > Bill >
From: Bill on 2 Jun 2010 01:47 Good point. I don't often have difficulties with queries and completely forgot how important the NG is to those that might encounter trouble from time to time. Funny too, as I recently shot a hole in my foot forgetting that Union queries are not updatable. Bill "david" <david(a)nospam.au> wrote in message news:%23VMwFRgALHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I could quibble with your selection of the 4 groups, but the main > thing you missed is "queries". microsoft.public.queries is a fairly > busy group, carrying mostly stuff not handled in the other groups. > > (david) > > > "Bill" <mlharding(a)jps.net> wrote in message > news:mL2dnQM_lt31EpjRnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> >> "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D8AB17D96AD6f99a49ed1d0c49c5bbb2(a)74.209.136.100... >>> =?Utf-8?B?RnJlZA==?= <Fred(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> news:2500C9A5-F9E9-49B6-AD28-75FAB9610BF0(a)microsoft.com: >>> >>>> The experts have been focusing on the technical aspects (news >>>> group vs web interface) but I think that what's more key is an >>>> Access-focused forum/newsgroup, with some subdivisions, and >>>> knowing that most people that are asking a question will need a >>>> web site / web interface. >>> >>> I vote for a single newsgroup with no subdivisions at all. >>> >>> -- >>> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ >>> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ >> >> No, "Access", "Forms", "Formscoding" and "Reports" are the four >> sub-divisions that have served us well. And, as Bob posted, there >> are many NNTP servers out there, that as far as I've been able to >> determine, have no intention of dropping the Microsoft.Public.* >> newsgroups. >> >> Bill >> > >
From: Fred on 2 Jun 2010 08:58 I think that I am confused on what "newsgroup" means with regard to the termination notices. Could somebody enlighten me? As far as I understand it, there are two definitions of "newsgroups" at work here: 1. The Microsoft name for the question and answer area which is nicely organized with a section for Access, and functionally defined subsections. 2. A technical way of accessing #1 (which I don't understand) which involves a method other than the Microsoft web interface. Are they shutting down #1, #2 or both?
From: Douglas J. Steele on 2 Jun 2010 09:22
#3. For quite a few years now, Microsoft has been running a number of news servers with the address msnews.microsoft.com. On those servers, there are a number of NNTP newsgroups with a high level of microsoft.public.*. Microsoft also has a web interface to interact with those newsgroups. In actual fact, the web interface is a relatively new thing: for years, Microsoft simply had the news servers and you had to use a news reader to interact with the forums. They're turning off the servers, and shutting down their web interface. However, since they're NNTP newsgroups, they're propagated to hundreds of other servers, and it's extremely doubtful that those other servers are going away. So as long as you have a newsgroup reader and the ability to log onto one of the many other servers that carry the groups, they're not really going away. The issue is that since Microsoft is making it so much harder, we expect the volume of posts to decrease significantly. -- Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP http://www.AccessMVP.com/DJSteele Co-author: Access 2010 Solutions, published by Wiley (no e-mails, please!) "Fred" <Fred(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5ACC2DA1-6321-409C-A529-8A52541C8022(a)microsoft.com... >I think that I am confused on what "newsgroup" means with regard to the > termination notices. Could somebody enlighten me? As far as I > understand > it, there are two definitions of "newsgroups" at work here: > > 1. The Microsoft name for the question and answer area which is nicely > organized with a section for Access, and functionally defined subsections. > > 2. A technical way of accessing #1 (which I don't understand) which > involves a method other than the Microsoft web interface. > > Are they shutting down #1, #2 or both? > > |