Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
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From: Cor Ligthert[MVP] on 8 May 2010 13:34 Microsoft made it, it was the reason I started looking at the forums, However, the Microsoft forums software is good enough currently to be in some cases better than NNTP https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=927 "Robert Roland" <fake(a)ddress.no> wrote in message news:9g6bu51929vheojnrlq5fdbtk9vg5mlgra(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:11:32 -0700, Tom Shelton > <tom_shelton(a)comcastXXXXXXX.net> wrote: > >>While the web interface isn't completely horrid - it's still not nntp. It >>will be sorely missed. > > The biggest problem with web forums is the decentralization. With > Usenet, there was always one single database for everything. With web > servers, you have to connect to a myriad of different servers to keep > up with your various subjects of interest. > > How hard would it be to implement an NNTP interface in the web forum > server software? I can't imagine it would take a lot of effort. > -- > RoRo
From: Family Tree Mike on 8 May 2010 14:17 On 5/8/2010 1:31 PM, Tom Shelton wrote: > On 2010-05-08, Armin Zingler<az.nospam(a)freenet.de> wrote: >> Am 08.05.2010 16:49, schrieb Tom Shelton: >>> Because VS2010 is written using WPF - WPF does not support mdi, therefore, no >>> MDI in vs2010. >> >> This means that WPF is not an option for my applications, too. ;-) > > Well, if you feel the need to use MDI then I guess not. But, in case you > haven't noticed - mdi has long fallen out of fashion. It's very rare to see > new software with an MDI interface. > Which is why I know a lot of people are keeping their copies of Office 2003. Many consider Access 2007 is a beast to them with the "improved" interface. -- Mike
From: Robert Roland on 8 May 2010 14:35 On Sat, 08 May 2010 10:30:41 -0700, Tom Shelton <tom_shelton(a)comcastXXXXXXX.net> wrote: >It's actually just the opposite. USENET is very decentralized - way more so >then any web forum. Posts are submitted to a server and then propogated to >other nttp servers. Sure, but only if you look at it from a technical point of view. If you look at it from a user's point of view, you connect to one server and get access to all groups, and each group will contain any post made from any server. >> How hard would it be to implement an NNTP interface in the web forum >> server software? I can't imagine it would take a lot of effort. > >MS has an nntp bridge for their webforums. Is there any information on how to use it? My newsreader can connect to several servers, so it should simply be a matter of adding one or more servers, I expect. > But, from all reports it's very >slow - Slow is not a serious problem for NNTP. In the olden days, I read news through a dial-up connection. It is, of course, convenient to be able to download a message body instantly at the press of a button, but it is not a requirement. >and if your like me and use a text only news reader (slrn+vim), then >the html nature of the posts will make it unusable - unless you use a news >reader that supports html. My newsreader does support HTML, but I keep the support turned off most of the time. With HTML support off, the reader converts the HTML to plaintext for me. I don't know enough about HTML to decide how difficult that process is, but it is certainly possible. -- RoRo
From: Robert Roland on 8 May 2010 14:47 On Sat, 8 May 2010 19:34:17 +0200, "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <Notmyfirstname(a)planet.nl> wrote: >Microsoft made it, it was the reason I started looking at the forums, > >However, the Microsoft forums software is good enough currently to be in >some cases better than NNTP > >https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=927 Thanks. It seems they implemented this with a piece of client software that needs to be installed on my PC. How utterly, spectacularly insane! What they have to do, is to run software on the server that emulates an NNTP server, so that any NNTP reader on any platform can connect. -- RoRo
From: Armin Zingler on 8 May 2010 15:00
Am 08.05.2010 19:31, schrieb Tom Shelton: > On 2010-05-08, Armin Zingler <az.nospam(a)freenet.de> wrote: >> Am 08.05.2010 16:49, schrieb Tom Shelton: >>> Because VS2010 is written using WPF - WPF does not support mdi, therefore, no >>> MDI in vs2010. >> >> This means that WPF is not an option for my applications, too. ;-) > > Well, if you feel the need to use MDI then I guess not. But, in case you > haven't noticed - mdi has long fallen out of fashion. It's very rare to see > new software with an MDI interface. Yes, unfortunatelly. I remember many people complaining about Office 2000 not being able to switch to MDI or at least to get rid of all the taskbar buttons for each open document. What's better with tabbed windows? Only that you can move a window to another screen? From my own experience, a dual screen setup (or any even number of screens) is a bad compromise. Hardly anyone has more of them. Anyway, if you maximize the IDE - who doesn't do this? - you can move the MDI windows anywhere on both screens, too. So I don't see any advantage of tabbed windows. Only a limitation. -- Armin |