From: Robert Higgins on
Last time on alt.cellular.attws, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> said:

>Verizon Wireless is holding onto to its unlimited data plan for
>smartphones just a little longer as it dukes it out with AT&T for more
>wireless smartphone subscribers.
>
>The fact that Verizon is keeping this data plan is significant because
>AT&T, which tomorrow will begin selling the new iPhone 4, has eliminated
>its unlimited plan in lieu of a new two-tiered offer that caps monthly
>data usage.

All this means is 1) Verizon's network will be brought to its knees by
the data hogs, just as AT&T's has, and 2) as soon as VZW gets enough
market share, the usage caps will slam down like iron curtains.
From: Robert Higgins on
Last time on alt.cellular.attws, Larry <noone(a)home.com> said:

>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>news:5c3i465p50oelcf6e8h7dpqppr9lora37n(a)4ax.com:
>
>> So we boycott all the carriers until they give in and agree to do
>> business at a loss? ;)
>
>They're not losing a damned thing and YOU KNOW IT>
>
>Company bullshit....

They may not be, but customers sure are. The more users there are
sucking down the (finite) unlimited bandwidth, the worse things are
for everybody.

Usage caps are the only way to avoid The Tragedy of the Wireless
Commons. And that's no bullshit.
From: Harry  on
On 7/23/10 10:23 AM, Robert Higgins wrote:
> Last time on alt.cellular.attws, Larry<noone(a)home.com> said:
>
>> John Navas<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>> news:5c3i465p50oelcf6e8h7dpqppr9lora37n(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> So we boycott all the carriers until they give in and agree to do
>>> business at a loss? ;)
>>
>> They're not losing a damned thing and YOU KNOW IT>
>>
>> Company bullshit....
>
> They may not be, but customers sure are. The more users there are
> sucking down the (finite) unlimited bandwidth, the worse things are
> for everybody.
>
> Usage caps are the only way to avoid The Tragedy of the Wireless
> Commons. And that's no bullshit.


I don't get the allure of watching movies or playing video games on a
sub-5" screen. I can see reading some headlines, getting directions, et
cetera, the momentary sort of stuff, but a smart phone is no substitute
for a laptop.
From: John Navas on
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:23:06 -0700, in
<r89j46tl8qkn0ds26f8lv3ur71smm3v7m2(a)4ax.com>, Robert Higgins
<robert(a)nospam.bogus> wrote:

>Last time on alt.cellular.attws, Larry <noone(a)home.com> said:
>
>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>>news:5c3i465p50oelcf6e8h7dpqppr9lora37n(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> So we boycott all the carriers until they give in and agree to do
>>> business at a loss? ;)
>>
>>They're not losing a damned thing and YOU KNOW IT>
>>
>>Company bullshit....
>
>They may not be, but customers sure are. The more users there are
>sucking down the (finite) unlimited bandwidth, the worse things are
>for everybody.
>
>Usage caps are the only way to avoid The Tragedy of the Wireless
>Commons. And that's no bullshit.

Yep.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:43:44 -0400, in
<8ato51F46cU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Harry ? <naled24511(a)mypacks.net>
wrote:

>On 7/23/10 10:23 AM, Robert Higgins wrote:

>> Usage caps are the only way to avoid The Tragedy of the Wireless
>> Commons. And that's no bullshit.
>
>I don't get the allure of watching movies or playing video games on a
>sub-5" screen. I can see reading some headlines, getting directions, et
>cetera, the momentary sort of stuff, but a smart phone is no substitute
>for a laptop.

I didn't think so at first either, but I've found it quite nice when
stuck somewhere without my laptop (notebook).

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]