From: Rod Speed on
Oldus Fartus wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Don McKenzie wrote
>>> Tim Wescott wrote
>>>> Don McKenzie wrote

>>>>> New Microsoft Tech Makes Battery Changes a Breeze

>>>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365995,00.asp

>>>>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced a technology called InstaLoad,
>>>>> which will allow you to insert a battery into electronic devices
>>>>> any way you please.

>>>>> The InstaLoad technology will be licensed on a royalty-free basis,
>>>>> Microsoft said. Duracell was named as a partner for the
>>>>> technology, as well as several manaufacturers of electronic
>>>>> devices, including ClearSound's hearing aids, NovaTac's LED
>>>>> flashlights, and Black Diamond's headlamps for mountaineering.

>>>> It doesn't quite meet the "not obvious" criteria -- it makes you wonder why Microsoft is even bothering with a
>>>> patent.

>>> Just wonder how tested against little children and preying fingers they are.

>> Just how many children do you know with preying fingers ?

> G'day Rod. do you need a couple of whooooooshers to use?

Fraid not, Joyce.

> I'm praying some of those prying fingers aren't preying on the unfortunate.

Down, fart.


From: Don McKenzie on
Rod Speed wrote:
> Don McKenzie wrote:

>> Just wonder how tested against little children and preying fingers they are.
>
> Just how many children do you know with preying fingers ?
>
>> Did Micro$oft test them to the nth degree like they did with Vista?
>> :-)
>
> Likely better than your proof reading.

6 moths ago I couldn't speel Injuneer, now I is one!
:-)

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> Tim Wescott wrote:
>> On 07/02/2010 02:55 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>> New Microsoft Tech Makes Battery Changes a Breeze
>>>
>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365995,00.asp
>>>
>>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced a technology called InstaLoad, which
>>> will allow you to insert a battery into electronic devices any way you
>>> please.
>>>
>>> The InstaLoad technology will be licensed on a royalty-free basis,
>>> Microsoft said. Duracell was named as a partner for the technology, as
>>> well as several manaufacturers of electronic devices, including
>>> ClearSound's hearing aids, NovaTac's LED flashlights, and Black
>>> Diamond's headlamps for mountaineering.
>>
>> It doesn't quite meet the "not obvious" criteria -- it makes you wonder
>> why Microsoft is even bothering with a patent.
>
> Just wonder how tested against little children and preying fingers they
> are.
>
> Did Micro$oft test them to the nth degree like they did with Vista? :-)
>
> Cheers Don...

Don it was tested as well as ME, only I think if you apply that to a human.
I am in worse shape.

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From: Andrew Smallshaw on
On 2010-07-06, Meindert Sprang <ms(a)NOJUNKcustomORSPAMware.nl> wrote:
> "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
> news:1bfwzxdwg7.fsf(a)snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net...
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Doug Jewell wrote
>> >> Rod Speed wrote
>> >
>> >>> Doesnt have to be anything like that much of a drop.
>> >
>> >> You're aware of power diodes that have much less than .6V voltage drop
> eh Rod?
>> >
>> > Didnt say anything about power diodes.
>>
>> Then what are you talking about?
>
> MOSFETS

I was thinking along similar lines albeit BJTs rather than MOSFETs
- it is not for nothing than MOSFETs are often drawn with a parasitic
reverse biased diode.

I've actually done this kind of thing using BJTs in the past although
the intent there was to reduce heat dissipation rather than voltage
drop although that pretty much means the same thing at the end of
the day. The drop is reduced to two collector-emitter losses.

You do need to watch the voltage though since my experience is that
BJTs can breakdown far faster than you might expect when reverse
biased. However that is unlikely to be a problem for battery
powered equipment particularly when you are having one circuit per
cell as here.

Actually, thinking about that I'll have to go through it and see
if the system I used would actually work in that arrangement. It's
just possible the other cells could interfere with the biasing and
I don't have a schematic in front of me to consider that possibility.

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From: John Tserkezis on
atec77 > wrote:

>>> Ehhhmm... a total drop of 1.2 - 1.4V on *each* battery voltage of
>>> 1.5V seems quite a show stopper to me....

>> Doesnt have to be anything like that much of a drop.

> So you are going to wave that magic "wand "of yours woddles changing the
> laws of physics? Name the device you are thinking of by number to prove
> your claim thanks

Pick any Schotkky diode. .1something to .4something volts drop
depending on flavour. Though, IMO even that would be too much.

You need to appreciate that this type of cost for the feature you're
getting, is way more than gross luxury. So technically it's certainly
very possible, but the economics will be below ordinary at best, and
broke at worst. When you're trying to drill that last few cents out of
a product that's destined for serious mass production at a minimal cost,
every fraction of a cent counts.

It's just not worth it.