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From: Steve L. on 6 Apr 2010 17:25 "Steve L." <emailme(a)myemail.addy> wrote in news:Xns9D529C3311A8Eemailmemyemailaddy(a)69.16.185.247: > "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in > news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83: > >> I also ran the DPC Latency checker again > > There's a program out there that logs what DPC does and you can > possibly trace dowm what's causing the spikes ... I'll see if I can > find it ... or maybe somebody can remember what it's called. I think this is it... http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/DevTools/tools/RATT.mspx
From: Peter Roussy on 6 Apr 2010 17:36 I may do that. I was able to cure the popping although I'm not sure exactly what was causing it. I will continue to configure. P "polymod" <polymod(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:4bbb97b6$0$31278$607ed4bc(a)cv.net... > > "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83... > >> I am left with Avast (I tried to turn it off but it >> comes back > > Hey Pete...Poly the resident computer dummy here. > > I've always had problems with Avast and find Microsoft Security Essentials > works just as well if not better and without the bloat. > > I think you may need to go into safe mode to uninstall Avast completely. > > Best, > Poly > >
From: Peter Roussy on 6 Apr 2010 17:37 Thanks. I'll try it. P "Steve L." <emailme(a)myemail.addy> wrote in message news:Xns9D52B1483C3E8emailmemyemailaddy(a)69.16.185.250... > "Steve L." <emailme(a)myemail.addy> wrote in > news:Xns9D529C3311A8Eemailmemyemailaddy(a)69.16.185.247: > >> "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in >> news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83: >> >>> I also ran the DPC Latency checker again >> >> There's a program out there that logs what DPC does and you can >> possibly trace dowm what's causing the spikes ... I'll see if I can >> find it ... or maybe somebody can remember what it's called. > > I think this is it... > > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/DevTools/tools/RATT.mspx
From: Peter Roussy on 6 Apr 2010 17:42 I turned back on the Lan and audio with no problems. I have considered dual boot and may go there. I'm going to continue trimming. thanks for the tips. P "Steve_Karl" <nospam(a)noway.com> wrote in message news:hpg7lk$diu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > The LAN should be no problem. > I'd leave the sound off as it's somewhat notorious for causing problems. > > Have you considered a dual boot? > Have one OS for audio oly and the other for hobby audio and internet etc. > That's the only way I can do it here and good great performance on a bare > bones > install of XP. 17 processes and that could be trimmed to 15 if the main > function of this box wasn't being a GigaStudio > farm animal. > > S > > > > > "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:QsLun.968$z%6.435(a)edtnps83... >> Well, I went int the BOIS and shut off the audio and the Lan (I left all >> of the USB on for now) and then I ran msconfig and took out everything I >> could from the startup tab. I am left with Avast (I tried to turn it off >> but it comes back), ipiont and itype (MS wireless kb and mouse), the >> Delta panel, BCU and NvCpl (again, tried but they came back). That >> brought the system processes down from 40 to 30 and now I can run at 64 >> samples and no pops. I will continue to trim but at least its working. I >> want to get the Lan and sound back if I can. >> I also ran the DPC Latency checker again. I am getting some wierd >> readings. If Reaper is running and I start it, I get readings just under >> 1000us but if I stop and restart the song in Reaper, the checker drops >> down to 8 or 9us with peaks up to maybe 50us. I know it still working >> because I inserted a synth while the song was running and noticed that >> the latency spiked to about 350us or so. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D5257845449EBrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)81.169.183.62... >>> The killer robot "Peter Roussy" <rugzy(a)telus.net> grabbed the controls >>> of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>> >>>> I'm running reaper in 16 bit with asio 64 samples latency as well and >>>> I didn't tweak reaper at all. I'm also using the same AP2496 driver as >>>> you. I'm not loading this thing up at all but it still pops and >>>> clicks. I had this same problem in previous systems until I could get >>>> the card on it's own IRQ. The thing I notice about this new system is >>>> that there are a cajillion things using up all the IRQ's and yet some >>>> numbers are not even listed (like 2,4,5,7,10,11,12,14,15 & 20). I >>>> tried to attach a picture of this but OE won't let me post an >>>> attachement to this group and I can't seem to imbed it in this >>>> message. I'm wondering what your IRQ table looks like? Is your AP2496 >>>> sharing with anything? >>> >>> My AP2496 is on an IRQ that is shared. I'm not at my DAW right now, but >>> I'll check it when I get home. If I were you, I'd try disabling *every* >>> on >>> board peripheral, like USB, sound, parallel and serial ports. Then boot >>> up, at which point both the BIOS and Windows will re-shuffle the deck of >>> who gets what IRQ. If that gets rid of the pops, then I'd one at a >>> time, >>> re-enable the on board stuff. >>> >>> -- >>> Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email >>> ________ __ >>> / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ >>> / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ >>> / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / >>> \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo >>> Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits >>> Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms >> >> > >
From: Peter Roussy on 6 Apr 2010 19:44
Ya, I thought it might be sharing with a lot of other things. Funny, it's even sharing with your video card. I think mine was on 16 as well. I guess the IRQ sharing thing just doesn't matter any more with these more powerful machines, not that we can do much about sharing in windows anyway. What I found to be causing the problems was back ground services, processes and systray stuff. All the software wants to get into your system and always be running. Automatic is not always nice. Thanks for your help. Pete "Glennbo" <vdrumsYourHeadFromYourAss(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Xns9D52B9581E607BrownShoesDontMakeIt(a)69.16.185.247... > In news:iDzun.1022$Z6.894(a)edtnps82 the killer robot "Peter Roussy" > <rugzy(a)telus.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio > and pressed these buttons... > >> I'm wondering what your IRQ table looks like? Is your AP2496 sharing >> with anything? > > My AP2496 is on IRQ 16, which shows to be shared with the following, > > Intel PCI Express Root Port 6 > Intel USB Enhanced Host Controller > Intel PCI Express Root Port 1 > nVidia GeForce 9800GT > > -- > Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email > ________ __ > / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ > / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ > / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / > \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo > Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits > Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms |