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From: Darklight on 28 Nov 2009 07:35
if you want to try a distro which uses the nvidia driver try sabayon.
I found it was the only live distro that use a nvidia driver straight
off the bat. it even uses it when running from the cd.
From: Aragorn on 28 Nov 2009 07:37
On Saturday 28 November 2009 13:35 in alt.os.linux, somebody identifying
as Darklight wrote...
> if you want to try a distro which uses the nvidia driver try sabayon.
> I found it was the only live distro that use a nvidia driver straight
> off the bat. it even uses it when running from the cd.
PCLinuxOS does that too. ;-)
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: philo on 28 Nov 2009 09:21
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:34:50 -0600, philo <philo(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> RodMcKay wrote:
<portions snuipped for brevity>
>> You are just a kid...I'm 60
> <g> I sure don't feel like one some days. And I'm starting to feel,
> unlike before, that keeping up with the younger ones at work is
> getting a little bit difficult <g>. Doesn't help when they're the
> young nubile things that look at you as if you're some kind of
> dinosaur because you're an older lady and you actually work when you
> go to work <lol>.
For the most part...
the guys I work with are about my daughter's age...
and they work more hours than I do...
but since I've got more experience...I usually get more done than they do.
>> I grew up reading sci-fi...especially Asimov.
>> No matter how far-fetched it was...as a kid I saw no reason not to think
>> it could not be true some day.
>> Then...maybe 1963 or so he mentioned a *desk top* computer and the
>> sci-fi bubble burst. This time he went too far...there could *never* be
>> a desk-top computer...and I pretty much stopped reading sc-fi as I
>> realized it was nothing but pure fiction! LOL!
> Get out!! Really?! Not for me. My love of sci-fi has never waned.
> The only troubles are when there's no good series on TV. i.e.,
> Stargate came along for me in 2003 when there was a vacuum in Star
> Trek. Don't know how I managed during that time <vbg>. In case
> anyone did know I'm a Stargate fan, my ng name ought to give it away!
>> (BTW: I once sent him a letter and he wrote me back a brief note
>> signed "I. A." )
> Most kewl! I would keep that always! I have some signed stuff from
> Star Trek conventions from the early 90s. Nothing comes to my home
> town anymore, so we're kind of bummed out here lately re that.
> I've met/seen most of the famous people in real life including the
> grande dame, Major Barrett-Roddenberry herself in 1993. I'm glad I
> met and spoke with her briefly while she kindly signed something for
> me as she passed away fairly recently.
I've met a few famous people and once in a while get a reply when I send
someone an email.
I've found out that the bigger someone is...
the more likely it is I'll actually get a reply.
The worst ones are those who are semi-famous and think they are too big
to speak to the general public !
> I went to my first con in 1990. It was a blast. Sure, it's all about
> commercialism and money, but what the heck! It's fun, too.
No sci-fi conventions for me...
but I do occasionally enjoy a good movie.
also I enjoy a movie that is so God-awfully horrible that it's funny...
such as Plan 9 from Outer Space...
and the 1959 Cadillac hubcap flying saucers <G>
>> Punch cards how I hated them.
>> Even as late as 1979 I can recall using them!
> If DOS was bad with how you always had to know syntax right down to
> every single dot and command, I can't even begin to imagine how hard
> punch cards were! Whenever I think of them, I'm reminded of the Don
> Knotts movie where he's a computer expert!! <g> He had to punch in a
> ton of stuff just to get a very simple solution! Hilarious.
Back in those days...it took a full week to get one program done.
With the punch cards, if there was a single typo...
even a missing non-ambiguous parentheses...the entire program would be
spit back at you
>> I found that even without the Nvidia drivers that my resolution
>> was fine. At least for me...all the Nvidia drivers added were some
>> custom settings.
> Well, lucky you and I don't know how you did it but I can't fix the
> resolution. I have two options and none make all the dialogue boxes
> fit. I can't get very far in Ubuntu with either of the two options
>> Anyway a Live CD (IMHO) is only good for having a glimpse into what
>> Linux is. I suggest you do an actual install...perhaps pop another HD
>> into the machine. An alternative would be to use a virtual machine from
>> within Windows and install there
> Yeah, everybody says that and I thank everyone for the advice. It's
> just that my circumstances don't permit it as yet. My hdd is full.
> And when I mean it's full, it's full <g>. I can't afford a new
> external drive yet, either. I want to transfer all my files to the
> external drive, wipe everything off the hdd, raze the partitions,
> reformat, and start completely afresh with Linux anyway. I don't want
> a dual boot system. When I finally install Linux, that'll be pretty
> much it for WinOS!! Virtualbox and Wine might be options once there,
> granted, but _no_ Window$ OS will be installed on my system ever
> again, if I have anything to say about it. I was past the point of
> "fed up" by the time Windows 2000 came along. Adapting at work to all
> the upgrading had become old long before then. Win7 and Office 2007
> were the absolute final straw!!
Though I switched to Linux as my main OS close to a year ago...
occasionally I still need to run a Windows application natively.
All my machines have removable drive kits and I can change OS's at
will...and I have two machines in my office and a KVM switch
so can run Windows and XP simultaneously if i need to.
>> <snipped for brevity...the cat is wanting me to chase her around the
>> house for a while>
> How did the play time with kitty-cat go? <g>
I didn't get any scratches on me...
my wife thinks I'm worse than a 12 year old kid...and she's right!
From: TJ on 28 Nov 2009 16:33
> First off, may I beg the group's indulgence. I just know that one or
> more will be tempted to say, "how stupid are you ... ?", which is not
> just a Linux geek-to-"stupid"-Linux-newbie problem, it happens
> everywhere when someone isn't technically strong (yeah, I get this re
> Window$, too). ---- I'm 47. I sat down at my first computer when I
> was 25, back in DOS days. Going back, by the early- to mid-70s when I
> was in junior high, I'd been a Star Trek fan since I was 6 and I'd
> read most if not all of Asimov's, etc., books by then. No big shakes
> for most of you, I'm sure. The thing is, though, that I'm not a guy.
> I sure was interested in computers but I had trouble with relating to
> the punch cards I saw the guys carrying around and talking excitedly
> about. The cards perplexed me and I couldn't bridge that to what the
> visual re computers was. Also, though we weren't discouraged from
> entering the sciences, there wasn't any active encouragement to do so
> either (unlike today). So, though I wish I could say otherwise, I'm
> still very weak in things like hardware and technical issues re
> computers. So you don't have to say it! I know it!! <g> Linux is
> making me change that even more, which I'm very happy about, but
> there are many nebulous areas still to chart! <g>.
Linux users come from all walks of life, and are at various levels of
computer expertise when they start. No need to apologize. And shrug off
that gender bias of yours. Your computer has no idea what your gender
is, nor does it care. BTW, I don't care, either. I had assumed you were
a guy based on your posted pseudonym. I should have known better than to
make such assumptions. I was right about you're being a youngster,
though. I'm 60.
> So, even after reading a ton of stuff re the Ubuntu-Nvidia driver
> issue, I'm stumped. I'd like to test out 3 distros, Ubuntu and 2
> based on it, just to get a feel for it. I can't install at this point
> for a number of reasons but I can look at different LiveCDs.
> Challenge is the resolution in all of them due to lack of Nvidia
> drivers. I can't see the screen properly, everything is way too big!
> I'm driven out in 2 minutes or less because I can't even get to a lot
> of the buttons on any given screen as some of the dialogue boxes
> extend way beyond what my monitor can display!!! You don't get very
> far if you can't even press the "GO" buttons <g>.
> I ran Belarc and Everest, two Window$ diagnostic freewares, so have
> some info on my Nvidia card. And there's this page here:
> plus I found a page this morning (which I've since lost and can't find
> again) that listed a ton of different Ubuntu Nvidia items to dl. But
> I'm hoping that following the above install page is all I need.
> Challenge is that I'd like to keep the files dl. The only way I seem
> to be relating to repositories may not be the right way - they seem
> similar to an Window$ phenomenon called web install -- not in
> concept, but in action!! Web install is something I _always_ avoid in
> Window$ like the plague since they install apps directly from the net
> to your computer with DLLs and tons of other stuff going to various
> places including the registry without your control. Now I know that
> Linux can't be like that at all, but instead of scattered stuff all
> over the place, with repository dl, do you end up with an executable
> file of some sort or a grouping of files, or code? Or does it vary?
> I don't know as I haven't had luck dl from repositories even using
> code particular to what I'm using, i.e., Fedora code when in Fedora.
> I since have been told that I have to use the repository that I have
> access to already - which I have to figure out how to do. But I'd
> like to know hopefully before going much further what to expect.
> I don't want to have to dl the Nvidia drivers each time I switch
> between Ubuntu-based LiveCDs (how awful is that! Don't want to use up
> the bandwidth for either side this way AT ALL!!) and one friend just
> doesn't have internet access because she can't afford it. It would be
> nice to have the file on my hdd which I can then carry with me to
> where I need to go and install.
> Thanks. Much appreciated. I'm in rather shaky waters here. Cheers.
I suggest you give the following website a good, thorough going-over, if
you haven't already: https://help.ubuntu.com/ It's the official
documentation for Ubuntu, as well as a link to the community-based
documentation. Be sure to look at both. Linux is a community-supported
OS, and many times community-based docs are more informative than the
official ones. They should explain to you how the repositories are
supposed to work, as well as answer many other questions you may have.
There is a whole section in each that goes into dealing with video
cards. There are other sections that deal with switching from Windows.
Similar sites exist for other distributions. However, I can't emphasize
strongly enough that you need to settle on one distro and stick with
that until you understand what's going on. Trying to use more than one
at the same time will only confuse you to the point where you never get
straightened out again.
From: KOB on 28 Nov 2009 21:55
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:21:28 -0600, philo wrote:
> Though I switched to Linux as my main OS close to a year ago...
> occasionally I still need to run a Windows application natively.
when did you drop OS/2? I thought I remembered you from the OS/2