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From: C J Campbell on 28 Jan 2010 01:30 On 2010-01-27 20:38:40 -0800, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said: > C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: >>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:47:55 -0800, C J Campbell >>> <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Note, of course, that this part applies ONLY to Aircraft where the >>>> Passengers are required to be SCREENED. Obviously, Passengers in >>>> PRIVATE Aircraft can and do carry Firearms. Apparently TSA believes >>>> that it would be a highly unusual Moose Hunter who would hijack himself. >>> >>> Wasn't that long ago that a moose hunter tried to hijack the country. >> >> Instead it got hijacked by a Chicago mobster. > > The usual bigotry that has corrupted the right wing. As opposed to the bigotry that has corrupted the left. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: Chris H on 28 Jan 2010 03:33 In message <q0t1m5p90bng71a7cj2tl8ug58rs988tr1(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes >On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:56:02 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >wrote: > >>In message <03eul51qo44qok88rt8b1hliklg9k7l3m5(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes >>>On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:05:06 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>>Yeah, right. We're supposed to believe that the opinion of some >>>>>low-level non-combatant can speak for the professional military. >>>> >>>>So where do you get that information from? >>> >>>Don't weasel. Were you, or were you not, a ranking officer at command >>>level >> >>Now you really show you don't understand > >They are the only military personnel that can effectively judge >another military. Other ranks have too limited a view. They tend to >base their opinion on individual encounters and not the larger >picture. That was true in the Soviet, Chinese and it seems the US military. It is not the case is smaller professional militaries. > >That contradicts what you've been saying. You've been claiming to >have been actively involved in counter-terrorism. Yes >Combat troops >counter terrorism by their actions, but counter-terrorism is >information gathering and planning. Not front line combat. That is down to semantics and definition. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Chris H on 28 Jan 2010 04:36 In message <2010012710112460903-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >On 2010-01-27 09:28:57 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > >> In message <2010012707303488124-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>> On 2010-01-27 01:12:11 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>> >>>> In message <2010012611373758821-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, >>>>Savageduck >>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>>>> On 2010-01-26 10:37:23 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>>>>> The books were "adjusted" to protect the guilty :-) the films were >>>>>> about >>>>>> as accurate as Saving Private Ryan... >>>>> Looked that way to me. >>>> BTW the first half of the film is wrong... apparently the US troops >>>> were >>>> landed by the British Navy and the RN Beach Masters were the first >>>> ashore. >>> Hollywood is what it is, they are not well known for producing >>>factual >>> documentaries. However you have the propensity to take a partial truth >>> and expand it into misinformation. >> I was listening to an interview with Speilberg who said it was >> "historically accurate" and then had a bit of a problem when the other >> person in the interview was a historian who was also on the beach in >> question for the landings... >> As you say Hollywood is well known for distorting history. > >BTW the landings at Omaha & Utah were by USN and US Coast Guard >vessels. There might have been some RN vessels in those landing fleets. I don't know but the chap arguing with Spielberg said it was the RN that did the landing and he was there as a RN beachmaster at which point Spielberg got very evasive and certainly did not say the chap was wrong. The then backpedeled the historical accuracy. >>>> Have you actually been out of North America? >>> Have you followed any of what I have posted recently? >>> So to answer your question, yes I have been out of North America. >> Fair enough... >> yes, I should have remembers reading the saga of your stolen D300. >> Glad it worked out as well as it did in the end. It has nudged me inot >> looking at my insurance again. >I will never curse having to pay my insurance premiums again. I know what you mean. >>> In the US you certainly have the right to remain silent and not >>> incriminate yourself, however no investigator in his right mind is >>> going to stop a suspect from freely making an admission of guilt, and >>> then verify the elements of that confession. >> True. However you are talking propaganda and asymmetric warfare. Let >>me >> educate you. When, over a 30 year period we had bombs going off in the >> UK lots of people claimed responsibility for political ends. Often >> opposing terrorist groups claimed the same bomb. > >...and yet the culprits were quite obvious. Not always.... there were several groups on both the "nationalist" and the "loyalist" sides. Often splinter groups did their own thing against the Britsh Army, the police, civil targets in genera, the groups on the other side and against groups on their own side...... Some bomb makers made bombs for more than one group. >>>> A confession on its own in a war like this is meaningless. >>>> Especially >>>> with an "organisation" like Al-Qeada that has no command structure or >>>> conventional organisation. >>> All the more reason to act against the nominal "Leader" when he >>>ties >>> himself and his organization to the terrorist act. >> He says he was the leader... no one has shown he was. > >As I stated "nominal leader." So that is enough to invade a country? Even after the government of that country has said that they would hand him over if there was any credible evidence..... (actually it would have suited OBL to stand trial in a court room ) >> Afghanistan really (like Kurdistan) belongs in three other >> countries and would be better split. >> Though Africa is getting hot again I hear. Various parts of US SF >>are >> wandering around. > >Huh????? My thoughts. I have had comments about both British and US SF in Africa recently. However as it appears to be on going no one is talking. I have no idea where in Africa or why. Went to a lecture at the local photographic club last night. Lecture was by Dave Yates (aka Jambo Harbari, a phrase you might recognise) see www.daveyatesphotography.com and www.jambohabari.com He has done a lot of photography in eastern Europe, Africa (hence the Jambo Harbri) and the USA. He tends to travel though the "one horse towns" and small towns in rural areas as you can see from the pictures. He mentioned that a lot of these towns are along the railway lines and others were on main roads but are now by passed by freeways and become run down. He then went on for some time talking about the poverty in the USA. He seemed to think it was quite widespread. This I found surprising as he has spent time in African and Eastern Europe but made no comment on poverty in those areas. He has spend weeks in the US going back year after year for quite a while often to re photograph the same places so it is not a view come to from visiting one place for a day. I found it strange that he seemed to think the poverty was that marked or worth mentioning. I suppose with African or Eastern Europe you expect it but with the USA you see the TV like Friends etc and everyone is "comfortable" so it may be a bigger difference when you see some small towns. He was suggesting whole communities were almost destitute. It is not a single visit but from many weeks travelling across the country. One trip was over 2,000 miles. He did say they never book hotels and grab a hotel/motel on the fly. So I suppose he may not be a good judge of picking places to stay (and haven't we all picked a real dive every once in a while? ) but he has been doing it for a couple of decades. I was just surprised by his view. Every where has poor towns here and there but seemed to thing it was quite common. Perhaps it is just the routes he picks. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Savageduck on 28 Jan 2010 06:19 On 2010-01-28 01:36:36 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > In message <2010012710112460903-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >> On 2010-01-27 09:28:57 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >> -------------< Snipped to clear the smoke >> screen>------------------------------------ >>> Afghanistan really (like Kurdistan) belongs in three other >>> countries and would be better split. >>> Though Africa is getting hot again I hear. Various parts of US SF >>> are >>> wandering around. >> >> Huh????? Boy! Can you skip around to avoid answering a question? It seems you clipped and ignored this; "...and BTW, you have yet to tell us of your hair raising experiences in the dangerous cities of California. Also your personal experience with the US Legal System." from your response to my post. Waay back in this thread you made the claim regarding your "personal experience with the US Legal System" which you feel free to deride and criticize. You also made claims of exploring those dangerous cities in the US, "up and down California." Both Tony and I have challenged you to give us the details of your experience with the US Legal System, and your experience in the cities "up and down California" which led you to make the statements you did. You have yet to deliver, and many question your credibility in this regard, and we wouldn't want your credibility damaged. Even if you fabricate something, that should be of some entertainment value. > > My thoughts. I have had comments about both British and US SF in Africa > recently. However as it appears to be on going no one is talking. I have > no idea where in Africa or why. Try Angola, and think oil. Try Somalia, and think Al Qaeda. Try Sudan & Darfur, etc. ....and quite possibly Zimbabwe. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: tony cooper on 28 Jan 2010 10:05
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:33:53 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >In message <q0t1m5p90bng71a7cj2tl8ug58rs988tr1(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes >>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:56:02 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>wrote: >> >>>In message <03eul51qo44qok88rt8b1hliklg9k7l3m5(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes >>>>On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:05:06 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Yeah, right. We're supposed to believe that the opinion of some >>>>>>low-level non-combatant can speak for the professional military. >>>>> >>>>>So where do you get that information from? >>>> >>>>Don't weasel. Were you, or were you not, a ranking officer at command >>>>level >>> >>>Now you really show you don't understand >> >>They are the only military personnel that can effectively judge >>another military. Other ranks have too limited a view. They tend to >>base their opinion on individual encounters and not the larger >>picture. > >That was true in the Soviet, Chinese and it seems the US military. It is >not the case is smaller professional militaries. What nonsense. A smaller military is in no way more capable of assessing the effectiveness of a larger military force. This is another one of your misrepresentations made up to support your bias. >> >>That contradicts what you've been saying. You've been claiming to >>have been actively involved in counter-terrorism. > >Yes > >>Combat troops >>counter terrorism by their actions, but counter-terrorism is >>information gathering and planning. Not front line combat. > >That is down to semantics and definition. The false definition in question seems to be your alleged role in the military. One day its high-level counter-terrorism, and the next day its front line combat. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |