From: MZB on
Ben:

I'm not sure how to do this.

I went to http://www.hdat2.com/
I clicked d/l, but I don't know what to d/l.

Mel
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote in message
news:hr07pt$bcf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 4/24/2010 12:47 PM, MZB wrote:
>> Ben:
>>
>> My laptop has:
>> toshiba mk4026gax, according to Belarc Advisor. It also lists SMART
>> status
>> as healthy.
>>
>> It appears there is not diagnostic specifically for this drive.
>>
>> My computer seems to be passing the Dell Diagnostics except for the CD
>> drive
>> (which I rarely use -- oddly that seems to be working fine).
>>
>> I will try and clean up any dust/dirt. Can that also cause problems on
>> boot-up?
>>
>> After I do the forced air thing, if it doesn't work, should I do the XP
>> REPAIR. I'm real hesitant to do that as I don't want to screw anything
>> up,
>> although my important data is backed up.
>>
>> Mel
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ben Myers"<ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:hqv5sc$1hm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 4/24/2010 11:21 AM, Mel wrote:
>>>> I'm having more problems.
>>>> Computer now does not boot most of the time. It stalls after my initial
>>>> screen.
>>>>
>>>> I ran Dell Diagnostics Express Test and everything passed.I'm now doing
>>>> the
>>>> custom tests. I'm doing the IDE disk test and it looks like it will
>>>> pass.
>>>> I'll then try the system memory, system board, and processor tests.
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bob Villa"<pheeh.zero(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:f6aaadf4-c972-42a0-87b3-47391beac763(a)s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Apr 24, 7:56 am, "MZB"<m...(a)noway.prudigy.net> wrote:
>>>>> Howdy:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had this Inspiron 2200 for about 6 years and I use it a lot. I
>>>>> am
>>>>> running XP HOME SP3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lately, I am having the following problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> The computer suddenly slows down to a crawl. There can be a 3-minute
>>>>> wait
>>>>> for any response. Sometimes I'll just see an hourglass for awhile.
>>>>> I thought it might be internet-related, but when this starts I can
>>>>> completely close my browser and the problem continues. At times I'll
>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>> do a cold shutdown (ie: hold down the on/off switch to shut it down).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this. I've run msconfig and reduced
>>>>> the
>>>>> startup stuff. I'm not sure if that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other problem: I used to be able to go on standby. But when I do
>>>>> now
>>>>> I
>>>>> get the BSOD when starting up from standby. When I request an error
>>>>> report,
>>>>> it suggests that I look at updating my device drivers. But it doesn't
>>>>> specify any paerticular device/driver. This problem may not even be
>>>>> related
>>>>> to my other one.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other clue perhaps is that the fan is going every time this
>>>>> happens.
>>>>> It
>>>>> only happens after I've been running the computer for awhile. Does
>>>>> this
>>>>> sound like an overheating problem? Last time it happened, I could not
>>>>> get
>>>>> it
>>>>> to restart; it would freeze after the splash screen, so again I had to
>>>>> do
>>>>> a
>>>>> cold shutdown. That was last night. Today it booted right up and is
>>>>> running
>>>>> nicely, no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Avira AV and keep it updated. Scans are clean. Ditto with
>>>>> malwarebytes. I regularly clean out the cache and other temp files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mel
>>>>
>>>> If JayB good suggestions gives you no results...try MalwareB in
>>>> FafeMode (if you haven't)
>>>> bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Determine the manufacturer of the hard drive. Download and run BOTH the
>>> manufacturer's free disk diagnostics and HDAT2. The latter allows you
>>> to
>>> see the SMART data, including maximum/minimum temperature during the
>>> life
>>> of the drive, number of relocated sectors (IMHO, even ONE is a sign of a
>>> failing drive), number of pending relocated sectors.
>>>
>>> You might remove the keyboard, an easy job, and give the heat sink and
>>> fan
>>> a good cleaning with a Q-tip, a soft-bristle brush and compressed air,
>>> especially if the computer is used in a dirty environment or among furry
>>> creatures.
>>>
>>> My rule of thumb has always been to make sure the hardware is A-OK
>>> before
>>> making changes to the software. Failure to do so can leave one with
>>> thumbs in the wrong place and chasing a phantom software problem which
>>> is
>>> really hardware... Ben Myers
>>
>>
>
> Mel,
>
> Right! Toshiba is the ONLY hard drive manufacturer that does not provide
> any diagnostic software to the general public. The dolts!
>
> Run HDAT2, to look at SMART status in more detail... Ben Myers


From: Bob Villa on
On Apr 25, 8:59 pm, "MZB" <m...(a)noway.prudigy.net> wrote:
> Ben:
>
> I'm not sure how to do this.
>
> I went tohttp://www.hdat2.com/
> I clicked d/l, but I don't know what to d/l.
>
> Mel"Ben Myers" <ben_my...(a)charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hr07pt$bcf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 4/24/2010 12:47 PM, MZB wrote:
> >> Ben:
>
> >> My laptop has:
> >> toshiba mk4026gax, according to Belarc Advisor. It also lists SMART
> >> status
> >> as healthy.
>
> >> It appears there is not diagnostic specifically for this drive.
>
> >> My computer seems to be passing the Dell Diagnostics except for the CD
> >> drive
> >> (which I rarely use -- oddly that seems to be working fine).
>
> >> I will try and clean up any dust/dirt. Can that also cause problems on
> >> boot-up?
>
> >> After I do the forced air thing, if it doesn't work, should I do the XP
> >> REPAIR. I'm real hesitant to do that as I don't want to screw anything
> >> up,
> >> although my important data is backed up.
>
> >> Mel
>
> >> "Ben Myers"<ben_my...(a)charter.net>  wrote in message
> >>news:hqv5sc$1hm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> On 4/24/2010 11:21 AM, Mel wrote:
> >>>> I'm having more problems.
> >>>> Computer now does not boot most of the time. It stalls after my initial
> >>>> screen.
>
> >>>> I ran Dell Diagnostics Express Test and everything passed.I'm now doing
> >>>> the
> >>>> custom tests. I'm doing the IDE disk test and it looks like it will
> >>>> pass.
> >>>> I'll then try the system memory, system board, and processor tests.
>
> >>>> Any other ideas?
>
> >>>> "Bob Villa"<pheeh.z...(a)gmail.com>   wrote in message
> >>>>news:f6aaadf4-c972-42a0-87b3-47391beac763(a)s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com....
> >>>> On Apr 24, 7:56 am, "MZB"<m...(a)noway.prudigy.net>   wrote:
> >>>>> Howdy:
>
> >>>>> I have had this Inspiron 2200 for about 6 years and I use it a lot. I
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> running XP HOME SP3.
>
> >>>>> Lately, I am having the following problem:
>
> >>>>> The computer suddenly slows down to a crawl. There can be a 3-minute
> >>>>> wait
> >>>>> for any response. Sometimes I'll just see an hourglass for awhile.
> >>>>> I thought it might be internet-related, but when this starts I can
> >>>>> completely close my browser and the problem continues. At times I'll
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> do a cold shutdown (ie: hold down the on/off switch to shut it down).
>
> >>>>> I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this. I've run msconfig and reduced
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> startup stuff. I'm not sure if that helps.
>
> >>>>> One other problem: I used to be able to go on standby. But when I do
> >>>>> now
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> get the BSOD when starting up from standby. When I request an error
> >>>>> report,
> >>>>> it suggests that I look at updating my device drivers. But it doesn't
> >>>>> specify any paerticular device/driver. This problem may not even be
> >>>>> related
> >>>>> to my other one.
>
> >>>>> One other clue perhaps is that the fan is going every time this
> >>>>> happens.
> >>>>> It
> >>>>> only happens after I've been running the computer for awhile. Does
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> sound like an overheating problem? Last time it happened, I could not
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> to restart; it would freeze after the splash screen, so again I had to
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> cold shutdown. That was last night. Today it booted right up and is
> >>>>> running
> >>>>> nicely, no problems.
>
> >>>>> I use Avira AV and keep it updated. Scans are clean. Ditto with
> >>>>> malwarebytes. I regularly clean out the cache and other temp files.
>
> >>>>> Suggestions?
>
> >>>>> Mel
>
> >>>> If JayB good suggestions gives you no results...try MalwareB in
> >>>> FafeMode (if you haven't)
> >>>> bob
>
> >>> Determine the manufacturer of the hard drive.  Download and run BOTH the
> >>> manufacturer's free disk diagnostics and HDAT2.  The latter allows you
> >>> to
> >>> see the SMART data, including maximum/minimum temperature during the
> >>> life
> >>> of the drive, number of relocated sectors (IMHO, even ONE is a sign of a
> >>> failing drive), number of pending relocated sectors.
>
> >>> You might remove the keyboard, an easy job, and give the heat sink and
> >>> fan
> >>> a good cleaning with a Q-tip, a soft-bristle brush and compressed air,
> >>> especially if the computer is used in a dirty environment or among furry
> >>> creatures.
>
> >>> My rule of thumb has always been to make sure the hardware is A-OK
> >>> before
> >>> making changes to the software.  Failure to do so can leave one with
> >>> thumbs in the wrong place and chasing a phantom software problem which
> >>> is
> >>> really hardware... Ben Myers
>
> > Mel,
>
> > Right!  Toshiba is the ONLY hard drive manufacturer that does not provide
> > any diagnostic software to the general public.  The dolts!
>
> > Run HDAT2, to look at SMART status in more detail... Ben Myers

I would go with the 1st one on the d/l page (ISO image and burn to
bootable CD) 7-Zip for RAR and imgburn for ISO (if you're not sure
what to use)
bob