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From: Danny_dH on 6 May 2010 18:18 Hello, I'm a total Project Noob. I'm using Project 2007 and I want to do a 'simple'? task. I have a main project (MAIN). Then I have a sub project (indent 1)(SUB). This sub has 2 subprojects (indent 2) (SUB1 - SUB2). So it looks like this: MAIN start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 dur: 3 days SUB start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 dur: 3 days SUB1 start: 01/01 - end: 01/01 dur: 1day SUB2 start: 03/01 - end: 03/01 dur: 1day Now, that Projects says that the duration is 3 days.. ok.. I can live with that, but then I add a column named actual duration.. and that one does the same. When I now add a column 'Actual Work', it tells me SUB1: 8h, SUB2: 8h, SUB: 16h, MAIN: 16h.... so this column does a correct calculation. Now how can I add a column, which gives me the correct REAL sum of workdays, so one that says 2 days... I just want to have this overview to calculate my total number of spent workdays. Sorry if this is a stupidly simple question, but.. I don't seem to be able to find it. Any help should be appreciated.
From: JulieS on 6 May 2010 19:56 Hello Danny_dH, Hmm. Well something does seem off. Jan 1 in 2010 was a Friday. Jan 3 was a Sunday. Have you changed your calendar to allow working on weekends? Okay, so assuming you've allowed 7 working days -- that does work. But if you've changed your calendar, then it *is* 3 working days. Actual Duration is used when tracking, and unless the project has been tracked, Actual Duration should be zero. So, let's start over. What is your calendar definition? What are your working days? Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 5/6/2010 6:18 PM, Danny_dH wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a total Project Noob. I'm using Project 2007 and I want to do a > 'simple'? task. > > I have a main project (MAIN). Then I have a sub project (indent 1)(SUB). > This sub has 2 subprojects (indent 2) (SUB1 - SUB2). > So it looks like this: > MAIN start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 3 days > SUB start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 3 days > SUB1 start: 01/01 - end: 01/01 > dur: 1day > SUB2 start: 03/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 1day > > Now, that Projects says that the duration is 3 days.. ok.. I can live with > that, but then I add a column named actual duration.. and that one does the > same. > When I now add a column 'Actual Work', it tells me SUB1: 8h, SUB2: 8h, SUB: > 16h, MAIN: 16h.... so this column does a correct calculation. > > Now how can I add a column, which gives me the correct REAL sum of workdays, > so one that says 2 days... I just want to have this overview to calculate my > total number of spent workdays. > > Sorry if this is a stupidly simple question, but.. I don't seem to be able > to find it. > > Any help should be appreciated.
From: Danny_dH on 7 May 2010 03:52 Hello Julie, sorry bout the bad choice of date: I acutally ment 3 following days: better example: Mon 4 jan > Wed 6 Jan I am using the standard calendar, meaning, Mon-Fri, 8.00 > 12.00, 13.00 > 17.00 The rest of my situation stays the same.. so I hope this is more clear.. sorry bout the misunderstanding. Danny "Danny_dH" wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a total Project Noob. I'm using Project 2007 and I want to do a > 'simple'? task. > > I have a main project (MAIN). Then I have a sub project (indent 1)(SUB). > This sub has 2 subprojects (indent 2) (SUB1 - SUB2). > So it looks like this: > MAIN start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 3 days > SUB start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 3 days > SUB1 start: 01/01 - end: 01/01 > dur: 1day > SUB2 start: 03/01 - end: 03/01 > dur: 1day > > Now, that Projects says that the duration is 3 days.. ok.. I can live with > that, but then I add a column named actual duration.. and that one does the > same. > When I now add a column 'Actual Work', it tells me SUB1: 8h, SUB2: 8h, SUB: > 16h, MAIN: 16h.... so this column does a correct calculation. > > Now how can I add a column, which gives me the correct REAL sum of workdays, > so one that says 2 days... I just want to have this overview to calculate my > total number of spent workdays. > > Sorry if this is a stupidly simple question, but.. I don't seem to be able > to find it. > > Any help should be appreciated.
From: JulieS on 7 May 2010 10:20 Thanks for the clarification, Danny. That helps. The summary (Main in your example) calculation is correct. If one of the subproject's total duration is 3 days, then the summary duration is 3 days. I don't understand how you expect it to show 2 workdays if it starts on Monday and ends at the end of the day on Wednesday. Is that not 3 days? I think the issue is in your interpretation of duration. It is *not* "man hours". If you'd like to see man hours, the correct field is Work. You may display work in days if that helps. See Tools > Options, Schedule tab -- "Work is entered in" setting. I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 5/7/2010 3:52 AM, Danny_dH wrote: > Hello Julie, > > sorry bout the bad choice of date: I acutally ment 3 following days: > > better example: > Mon 4 jan> Wed 6 Jan > I am using the standard calendar, meaning, Mon-Fri, 8.00> 12.00, 13.00> > 17.00 > The rest of my situation stays the same.. so I hope this is more clear.. > > sorry bout the misunderstanding. > Danny > > "Danny_dH" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm a total Project Noob. I'm using Project 2007 and I want to do a >> 'simple'? task. >> >> I have a main project (MAIN). Then I have a sub project (indent 1)(SUB). >> This sub has 2 subprojects (indent 2) (SUB1 - SUB2). >> So it looks like this: >> MAIN start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 >> dur: 3 days >> SUB start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 >> dur: 3 days >> SUB1 start: 01/01 - end: 01/01 >> dur: 1day >> SUB2 start: 03/01 - end: 03/01 >> dur: 1day >> >> Now, that Projects says that the duration is 3 days.. ok.. I can live with >> that, but then I add a column named actual duration.. and that one does the >> same. >> When I now add a column 'Actual Work', it tells me SUB1: 8h, SUB2: 8h, SUB: >> 16h, MAIN: 16h.... so this column does a correct calculation. >> >> Now how can I add a column, which gives me the correct REAL sum of workdays, >> so one that says 2 days... I just want to have this overview to calculate my >> total number of spent workdays. >> >> Sorry if this is a stupidly simple question, but.. I don't seem to be able >> to find it. >> >> Any help should be appreciated.
From: Danny_dH on 7 May 2010 16:15
Hey Julie, well.. it is as you say: my idea of worked days/hours is different then what project does with it.. My idea was that, when choosing the column 'actual duration', project should calculate everything in days. I now changed the "Work is entered in" to days.. and now calculation is fine in days.. but I cannot enter hours anymore.. maybe I want to much of it ;) Is there a way to have both? Thanks for helping me out Julie :) "JulieS" wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, Danny. That helps. > > The summary (Main in your example) calculation is correct. If > one of the subproject's total duration is 3 days, then the > summary duration is 3 days. I don't understand how you expect it > to show 2 workdays if it starts on Monday and ends at the end of > the day on Wednesday. Is that not 3 days? > > I think the issue is in your interpretation of duration. It is > *not* "man hours". If you'd like to see man hours, the correct > field is Work. You may display work in days if that helps. See > Tools > Options, Schedule tab -- "Work is entered in" setting. > > I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. > > Julie > Project MVP > > Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional > information about Microsoft Project > > On 5/7/2010 3:52 AM, Danny_dH wrote: > > Hello Julie, > > > > sorry bout the bad choice of date: I acutally ment 3 following days: > > > > better example: > > Mon 4 jan> Wed 6 Jan > > I am using the standard calendar, meaning, Mon-Fri, 8.00> 12.00, 13.00> > > 17.00 > > The rest of my situation stays the same.. so I hope this is more clear.. > > > > sorry bout the misunderstanding. > > Danny > > > > "Danny_dH" wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm a total Project Noob. I'm using Project 2007 and I want to do a > >> 'simple'? task. > >> > >> I have a main project (MAIN). Then I have a sub project (indent 1)(SUB). > >> This sub has 2 subprojects (indent 2) (SUB1 - SUB2). > >> So it looks like this: > >> MAIN start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > >> dur: 3 days > >> SUB start: 01/01 - end: 03/01 > >> dur: 3 days > >> SUB1 start: 01/01 - end: 01/01 > >> dur: 1day > >> SUB2 start: 03/01 - end: 03/01 > >> dur: 1day > >> > >> Now, that Projects says that the duration is 3 days.. ok.. I can live with > >> that, but then I add a column named actual duration.. and that one does the > >> same. > >> When I now add a column 'Actual Work', it tells me SUB1: 8h, SUB2: 8h, SUB: > >> 16h, MAIN: 16h.... so this column does a correct calculation. > >> > >> Now how can I add a column, which gives me the correct REAL sum of workdays, > >> so one that says 2 days... I just want to have this overview to calculate my > >> total number of spent workdays. > >> > >> Sorry if this is a stupidly simple question, but.. I don't seem to be able > >> to find it. > >> > >> Any help should be appreciated. > . > |