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From: Grant Edwards on 6 Apr 2010 12:22
On 2010-04-06, Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2010-04-06, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel(a)sequans.com> wrote:
>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>>> Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives? Like
>>> GNU Plot.
>>
>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but it
>> clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by the OP.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> In other words, Gnuplot presents information in a clear, obfuscated

That should be: unobsuscated

stupid spell-checker...

Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
Ed Tufte spin in his grave.

If it's 2D data, you don't need to use a 3D graph.

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From: Benjamin Kaplan on 6 Apr 2010 12:34
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:05 AM, AlienBaby <matt.j.warren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 4:24 pm, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmic...(a)sequans.com>
> wrote:
>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>> > Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives? Like
>> > GNU Plot.
>>
>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but it
>> clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by the OP.
>>
>> You havehttp://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> which is free and looks better than gnuplot. I'm not sure it's well
>> suited for presentation though.
>>
>> JM
>
> Hi,
>
> The requirement for a commercial license comes down to being
> restricted to not using any open source code. If it's an open source
> license it can't be used in our context.
>
> Until now I have actually been using matplotlib, but now that has to
> change.
> --

Just out of curiosity, where does this requirement come from?
Matplotlib (like Python itself) is offered under a license that
basically says "here's the source code. Do whatever you want with it".
Any policy that prevented you from using Matplotlib would prevent you
from using Python too.

> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
From: superpollo on 6 Apr 2010 12:44
Grant Edwards ha scritto:
> On 2010-04-06, Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2010-04-06, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel(a)sequans.com> wrote:
>>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>>>> Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives? Like
>>>> GNU Plot.
>>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but it
>>> clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by the OP.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> In other words, Gnuplot presents information in a clear, obfuscated
>
> That should be: unobsuscated
>
> stupid spell-checker...
>
> Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
> Ed Tufte spin in his grave.

didn't know he died.
From: Michael Torrie on 6 Apr 2010 12:46
On 04/06/2010 10:05 AM, AlienBaby wrote:
> The requirement for a commercial license comes down to being
> restricted to not using any open source code. If it's an open source
> license it can't be used in our context.

Python itself and all its standard libraries are open source, under the
PSF license, if I recall. Doesn't look like you can use python at all.
You simply cannot write a python program without some open source code
being used.

I don't understand the propensity of companies and individuals to think
of open source code as different than proprietary. It's not at all.
All code that you use that was not written by you or owned by you has to
be used under license from the copyright holder.

From: Duncan Booth on 6 Apr 2010 12:57
Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
> Ed Tufte spin in his grave.

http://flowingdata.com/2010/03/20/powerpoint-and-dying-kittens/
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