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From: AlienBaby on 6 Apr 2010 13:12
I am just looking at the PSF license now as it goes. It does appear
that we should be able to continue using matplotlib. - the
restrictions on open-source that have been imposed specifically state
it is fine to use the python language, and if matplotlib has the same
license I personally can't see any issue. However, the decision is not
mine.

The company I am with is unsure, and while they will pursue the
possible use of matplotlib with the PSF license, they would prefer I
continued to look into any commercially licensed libraries that could
be used.


....and as it goes, the first thing I fired back at them when I was
told 'no open source can be used' was basically 'What on earth are we
going to use to code it in...' and that the 'no open source'
restriciton as given was overly broad when you think about it.





From: Robert Kern on 6 Apr 2010 14:20
On 2010-04-06 11:44 AM, superpollo wrote:
> Grant Edwards ha scritto:
>> On 2010-04-06, Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2010-04-06, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel(a)sequans.com> wrote:
>>>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>>>>> Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives?
>>>>> Like GNU Plot.
>>>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but
>>>> it clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by
>>>> the OP.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> In other words, Gnuplot presents information in a clear, obfuscated
>> That should be: unobsuscated
>>
>> stupid spell-checker...
>> Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
>> Ed Tufte spin in his grave.
>
> didn't know he died.

He hasn't.

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

From: Grant Edwards on 6 Apr 2010 14:22
On 2010-04-06, superpollo <utente(a)esempio.net> wrote:
> Grant Edwards ha scritto:
>> On 2010-04-06, Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2010-04-06, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel(a)sequans.com> wrote:
>>>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>>>>> Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives? Like
>>>>> GNU Plot.
>>>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but it
>>>> clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by the OP.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> In other words, Gnuplot presents information in a clear, obfuscated
>>
>> That should be: unobsuscated
>>
>> stupid spell-checker...
>>
>> Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
>> Ed Tufte spin in his grave.
>
> didn't know he died.

If'd seen some of those graphs he would have.

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at emotional outburst!!
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From: Grant Edwards on 6 Apr 2010 14:31
On 2010-04-06, Duncan Booth <duncan.booth(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, most of the graphs I've seen in "presentations" would make
>> Ed Tufte spin in his grave.
>
> http://flowingdata.com/2010/03/20/powerpoint-and-dying-kittens/

:)

Years ago I was walking past a marketing guy's cube, and on his cube
wall he had Minard's famous "Napolean's March" graph that Tufte so
admired. I asked him if he had read Tufte's book "The Visual Display
of Quantitative Information" (in which the graph appears). He replied
that no he hadn't read Tufte's book -- he'd gotten that graph from a
power-point-driven lecture in some MBA class or other.

--
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at
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From: Lie Ryan on 6 Apr 2010 22:36
On 04/07/10 02:22, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2010-04-06, Grant Edwards <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2010-04-06, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel(a)sequans.com> wrote:
>>> Pablo Recio Quijano wrote:
>>>> Why must be commercial, when there is open and free alternatives? Like
>>>> GNU Plot.
>>>
>>> Gnuplot is ugly. I'm using it because I don't care if it's ugly but it
>>> clearly lacks of look & feel for presentations, as requested by the OP.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> In other words, Gnuplot presents information in a clear, obfuscated
>
> That should be: unobsuscated
>
> stupid spell-checker...
^^^^^^^^^^^^

is unobsuscated an obsuscated version of unobfuscated?
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