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From: Bruce on 16 Jul 2010 02:40 On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:24:27 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 15, 7:09�pm, Me <u...(a)domain.invalid> wrote: >> On 16/07/2010 10:22 a.m., RichA wrote:> $1000 for a fast kit zoom? �Are they insane? �As much as an Olympus >> > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). >> >> >http://dpreview.com/news/1007/10071501sigma1750mm.asp >> >> Sigma MSRP is almost meaningless, except that you can guess street price >> will be about 60% +/- 10% of MSRP. >> You also just assume that an Olympus 4/3 lens will be "better in every >> performance area", but you have no data at all on which to base that >> assumption. �So perhaps it's you who is insane? > >So you think the Sigma will beat the Olympus? Do you know any other >lens companies that measure lenses at 60lppm, including Zeiss or >Leica? It's a pity that a lens of such optical excellence as the Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD can only be used on crippled Four Thirds sensors.
From: Pete Stavrakoglou on 16 Jul 2010 09:23 "RichA" <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). > > http://dpreview.com/news/1007/10071501sigma1750mm.asp Two things which should be obvious to you: 1) the lens will sell for less than MSRP as all of Sigma's lenses do 2) it's not a kit lens You need to find something constructive to do with your time inmstead of going off half-cocked like you did once again.
From: Chris Malcolm on 16 Jul 2010 10:54 In rec.photo.digital Mr. Strat <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote: > In article > <49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus >> 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). > If people would just avoid Sigma products, they'd be much better off. Not in my case. My Sigma lens isn't my most expensive or optically best lens, but as it happens it's the lens whose photographs have earned me the most money :-) -- Chris Malcolm
From: Stuffed Crust on 16 Jul 2010 11:09 In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>http://dpreview.com/news/1007/10071501sigma1750mm.asp > > The Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II LD IF (phew!) is well made and > significantly cheaper. It is unlikely to be bettered by the Sigma. There's also the Tokina 165 (16-50/2.8 DX), also cheaper and generally well-regarded -- but. What differentiates the new Sigma is optical image stabilization and an internal ultrasonic focus motor. The lenses aren't directly comparable because of that. - Solomon [wanting a fast zoom in the 50-100mm range..] -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Melbourne, FL ^^ (mail/jabber/gtalk) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
From: RichA on 16 Jul 2010 15:16
On Jul 16, 2:40 am, Bruce <docnews2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:24:27 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >On Jul 15, 7:09 pm, Me <u...(a)domain.invalid> wrote: > >> On 16/07/2010 10:22 a.m., RichA wrote:> $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus > >> > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). > > >> >http://dpreview.com/news/1007/10071501sigma1750mm.asp > > >> Sigma MSRP is almost meaningless, except that you can guess street price > >> will be about 60% +/- 10% of MSRP. > >> You also just assume that an Olympus 4/3 lens will be "better in every > >> performance area", but you have no data at all on which to base that > >> assumption. So perhaps it's you who is insane? > > >So you think the Sigma will beat the Olympus? Do you know any other > >lens companies that measure lenses at 60lppm, including Zeiss or > >Leica? > > It's a pity that a lens of such optical excellence as the Olympus > Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD can only be used on crippled > Four Thirds sensors. Well, you could consider high ISO a waste due to noise, I consider 3:2 sensor a waste because of their format. |