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From: raxie on 16 Nov 2009 16:58 Was anyone able to find the root cause and/or a solution to this issue? We are on Project Server 2007, SP2 + Aug CU, using Project Pro '07 and PWA. 2 - 3 of our project plans are experiencing the same issue. Peter McSharry wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly 03-Nov-08 I am also experiencing the same issue. We're also using Project Server 2007 with IU. If I find out what the root cause is I will post it here. Previous Posts In This Thread: On Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:07 PM jgya wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly Hello, Im using MS Project 2007 and added new tasks on my work plan. I tried to baseline the new task but it does not roll up correctly summary task. It decreased rather than increased. The new task that I baseline have 2 hrs work. There should be an additional 2 hrs on my summary task after baselining the new task. But this is not the case, the result on the summary task baseline work becomes 2 hrs only. The process I used on re-baselining the task is to highlight the task then go to TOOL>Tracking>Set Baseline>Check Selected Task>Check the To rall Summary tasks>then click OK. Please advice. Thanks! On Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:04 PM Jonathan Sofer [MVP] wrote: Did you make sure to only highlight the new task when you re-baselined? Did you make sure to only highlight the new task when you re-baselined? Also validate whether the baseline work still exists on the other tasks. On Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:30 PM Crook wrote: Hi jgyap,FWIW, I was not able to reproduce the behavior you observed. Hi jgyap, FWIW, I was not able to reproduce the behavior you observed. Used MS Project Pro 2007, SP1. HTH, Crook On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:51 AM Adrienn wrote: The project in question has another work plan that has the same behavior. The project in question has another work plan that has the same behavior. Total baseline work decreases as as new task is baselined. Per the previous post, the steps taken are: Tools > Tracking > Set Baseline > Check Selected Task > Check the To all Summary tasks box > then click OK. Thanks in advance for any feedback. "Crook" wrote: On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:44 PM JulieS wrote: Adrienne,To chime in with "Crook", I cannot reproduce what you report using Adrienne, To chime in with "Crook", I cannot reproduce what you report using Project 2007 SP-1. What service pack do you have applied to Project? I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EF240E1D-6D01-487B-AA71-527432DDDFE2(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:58 PM Adrienn wrote: Re: Baseline work does not roll up correctly SP1 with the IU. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:01 PM JulieS wrote: Adrienne,If you create a new project file and test, does the same issue recur? Adrienne, If you create a new project file and test, does the same issue recur? Julie On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:45 AM Adrienn wrote: A new project file was created, and the problem persists. A new project file was created, and the problem persists. Are we doing something wrong here? It is my understanding that when a user sets the baseline and clicks the Roll up baselines - To all summary tasks option, baseline information of the summary task will automatically add up. Is that an incorrect assumption? "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:42 AM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,Some of the information (baseline work and baseline cost) for Hi Adrienne, Some of the information (baseline work and baseline cost) for summary tasks is the sum of the subtask information. However, duration is not the sum of the subtask duration. Let's step through this simply. Create a project with a summary task and 3 subtasks (A, B, C) Each subtask is 1 day in duration. No links between the tasks Create three resources (R1, R2, R3) each with a standard cost of $1.00 per hour. Assign one resource per task. Each task (A, B, C) has 8 hours of work Summary shows a total of 24 hours of work. Summary task duration = 1 day Baseline the Project. Baseline work for the summary task = 24 Baseline cost = $24 Baseline Duration = 1 day Add a new task (D) Duration = 1 day Assign all three resources Work on task D = 24 hours Baseline work on Task D = 0 Baseline work on Summary task still equals 24 hours Work on Summary task = 48 Select task D Tools > Tracking, Set Baseline For: Selected Tasks: Roll up baseline To all Summary tasks OK Warning appears -- baseline has already been used ....Do you want to overwrite? Yes. Baseline Work on Summary task = 48 hours. I'm not sure what you are doing differently. Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0FEE85E0-F538-459B-B907-872E170906FF(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:50 PM Adrienn wrote: What you described works just fine. What you described works just fine. Here is what is happening in one particular plan. For the task being rolled up, the details are (apologies if this is overkill): Milestone: No Type: Fixed work Baseline work: 18 hrs Actual work: 3 hrs Remaining work: 0 hrs Work: 3 hrs Duration: 2 days Start: Wed. 9/3/08 Baseline Finish: Mon 9/22/08 Finish: Fri 10/10/08 Constraint Type: Start No Earlier Than Constraint Date: Tue 9/2/08 Earned Value Method: % Complete No predecessors Six resources - units, no cost: Resource 1 - 25% Resource 2 - 13% Resource 3 - 13% Resource 4 - 13% Resource 5 - 13% Resource 6 - 13% There are seven summary tasks before this one. The baseline work value for the top summary task is 81,181.53 hrs. After selecting the above task, then rolling up the baseline to all summary tasks - overwrite previous baseline, the baseline work value for the top summary task and the other six summary tasks changes to 3 hrs. Do you think the problem is within the task that we are trying to roll up, or with the other summary task(s)? Please let me know what other details are needed. Thanks again for all of your help with this, it's greatly appreciated. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:18 PM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,I must say the information you've presented below is quite odd. Hi Adrienne, I must say the information you've presented below is quite odd. You show a duration of 2 days with a start of 9/3 and finish of 10/10? You also have 6 resources assigned with a total of 3 hours of work? Is the file something you can email to me? If so, zip it and send to prjng AT maine.rr.com Off the top of my head, I'm going to guess you have some mild corruption in the project plan if it is just this one particular project. On a copy of the file, try methods 1, 3, or 4 at FAQ #43 at http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B8934AA2-994E-47D4-B7D8-2A0297F6A40B(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:31 PM Adrienn wrote: We tried rebuilding the file per those methods but it didn't solve the problem. We tried rebuilding the file per those methods but it didn't solve the problem. I don't think I can send the file without permission. I can give you as many details about the task itself and summary tasks as you need, though. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 PM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,Sorry. Hi Adrienne, Sorry. I can't possibly trouble shoot a specific file issue without actually seeing the file. There are far too many variables involved and particularly as this is happening with only one file, my guess is it is a corrupt file. I am unable to create a scenario in testing where I can duplicate what you report. As an aside, why do you want to baseline the task if it already has been baselined? You note 18 hours of baseline work. Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A4AA008F-35F2-4745-8E86-CB3EC203C24D(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:39 PM Adrienn wrote: Actually, it's happening with two different project plans. Actually, it's happening with two different project plans. Otherwise, I'd also say it's file corruption. Everything was fine before some people entered actuals into PWA. The project admin states that a save-as to Baseline 1 isn't acceptable as they need to have the original baseline numbers, not a baseline of what the work column currently is. I'll see if the project admin would be OK with having you look at the file; however, there's sticky client confidentiality stuff to deal with. :-( "JulieS" wrote: On Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:12 AM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,I didn't know until now that you were using Project server. Hi Adrienne, I didn't know until now that you were using Project server. I'm not sure (I don't use server nor pwa extensively) if that is playing into this issue. Is your server install also at SP-1 with the IU? Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0B57B244-E07B-4BE4-8B41-4B659C573190(a)microsoft.com... On Monday, November 03, 2008 10:11 PM Peter McSharry wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly I am also experiencing the same issue. We're also using Project Server 2007 with IU. If I find out what the root cause is I will post it here. 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From: Mike Glen on 17 Nov 2009 14:25 Hi raxie pcanalyst, Try posting on the microsoft.public.project.server newsgroup (forum) you might find your answer there. Please see FAQ Item: 24. Project Newsgroups. FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be seen at this web address: http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm Mike Glen Project MVP "raxie pcanalyst" wrote in message news:20091116165835apena82(a)gmail.com... Was anyone able to find the root cause and/or a solution to this issue? We are on Project Server 2007, SP2 + Aug CU, using Project Pro '07 and PWA. 2 - 3 of our project plans are experiencing the same issue. Peter McSharry wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly 03-Nov-08 I am also experiencing the same issue. We're also using Project Server 2007 with IU. If I find out what the root cause is I will post it here. Previous Posts In This Thread: On Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:07 PM jgya wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly Hello, Im using MS Project 2007 and added new tasks on my work plan. I tried to baseline the new task but it does not roll up correctly summary task. It decreased rather than increased. The new task that I baseline have 2 hrs work. There should be an additional 2 hrs on my summary task after baselining the new task. But this is not the case, the result on the summary task baseline work becomes 2 hrs only. The process I used on re-baselining the task is to highlight the task then go to TOOL>Tracking>Set Baseline>Check Selected Task>Check the To rall Summary tasks>then click OK. Please advice. Thanks! On Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:04 PM Jonathan Sofer [MVP] wrote: Did you make sure to only highlight the new task when you re-baselined? Did you make sure to only highlight the new task when you re-baselined? Also validate whether the baseline work still exists on the other tasks. On Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:30 PM Crook wrote: Hi jgyap,FWIW, I was not able to reproduce the behavior you observed. Hi jgyap, FWIW, I was not able to reproduce the behavior you observed. Used MS Project Pro 2007, SP1. HTH, Crook On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:51 AM Adrienn wrote: The project in question has another work plan that has the same behavior. The project in question has another work plan that has the same behavior. Total baseline work decreases as as new task is baselined. Per the previous post, the steps taken are: Tools > Tracking > Set Baseline > Check Selected Task > Check the To all Summary tasks box > then click OK. Thanks in advance for any feedback. "Crook" wrote: On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:44 PM JulieS wrote: Adrienne,To chime in with "Crook", I cannot reproduce what you report using Adrienne, To chime in with "Crook", I cannot reproduce what you report using Project 2007 SP-1. What service pack do you have applied to Project? I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EF240E1D-6D01-487B-AA71-527432DDDFE2(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:58 PM Adrienn wrote: Re: Baseline work does not roll up correctly SP1 with the IU. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:01 PM JulieS wrote: Adrienne,If you create a new project file and test, does the same issue recur? Adrienne, If you create a new project file and test, does the same issue recur? Julie On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:45 AM Adrienn wrote: A new project file was created, and the problem persists. A new project file was created, and the problem persists. Are we doing something wrong here? It is my understanding that when a user sets the baseline and clicks the Roll up baselines - To all summary tasks option, baseline information of the summary task will automatically add up. Is that an incorrect assumption? "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:42 AM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,Some of the information (baseline work and baseline cost) for Hi Adrienne, Some of the information (baseline work and baseline cost) for summary tasks is the sum of the subtask information. However, duration is not the sum of the subtask duration. Let's step through this simply. Create a project with a summary task and 3 subtasks (A, B, C) Each subtask is 1 day in duration. No links between the tasks Create three resources (R1, R2, R3) each with a standard cost of $1.00 per hour. Assign one resource per task. Each task (A, B, C) has 8 hours of work Summary shows a total of 24 hours of work. Summary task duration = 1 day Baseline the Project. Baseline work for the summary task = 24 Baseline cost = $24 Baseline Duration = 1 day Add a new task (D) Duration = 1 day Assign all three resources Work on task D = 24 hours Baseline work on Task D = 0 Baseline work on Summary task still equals 24 hours Work on Summary task = 48 Select task D Tools > Tracking, Set Baseline For: Selected Tasks: Roll up baseline To all Summary tasks OK Warning appears -- baseline has already been used ....Do you want to overwrite? Yes. Baseline Work on Summary task = 48 hours. I'm not sure what you are doing differently. Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0FEE85E0-F538-459B-B907-872E170906FF(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:50 PM Adrienn wrote: What you described works just fine. What you described works just fine. Here is what is happening in one particular plan. For the task being rolled up, the details are (apologies if this is overkill): Milestone: No Type: Fixed work Baseline work: 18 hrs Actual work: 3 hrs Remaining work: 0 hrs Work: 3 hrs Duration: 2 days Start: Wed. 9/3/08 Baseline Finish: Mon 9/22/08 Finish: Fri 10/10/08 Constraint Type: Start No Earlier Than Constraint Date: Tue 9/2/08 Earned Value Method: % Complete No predecessors Six resources - units, no cost: Resource 1 - 25% Resource 2 - 13% Resource 3 - 13% Resource 4 - 13% Resource 5 - 13% Resource 6 - 13% There are seven summary tasks before this one. The baseline work value for the top summary task is 81,181.53 hrs. After selecting the above task, then rolling up the baseline to all summary tasks - overwrite previous baseline, the baseline work value for the top summary task and the other six summary tasks changes to 3 hrs. Do you think the problem is within the task that we are trying to roll up, or with the other summary task(s)? Please let me know what other details are needed. Thanks again for all of your help with this, it's greatly appreciated. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:18 PM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,I must say the information you've presented below is quite odd. Hi Adrienne, I must say the information you've presented below is quite odd. You show a duration of 2 days with a start of 9/3 and finish of 10/10? You also have 6 resources assigned with a total of 3 hours of work? Is the file something you can email to me? If so, zip it and send to prjng AT maine.rr.com Off the top of my head, I'm going to guess you have some mild corruption in the project plan if it is just this one particular project. On a copy of the file, try methods 1, 3, or 4 at FAQ #43 at http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B8934AA2-994E-47D4-B7D8-2A0297F6A40B(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:31 PM Adrienn wrote: We tried rebuilding the file per those methods but it didn't solve the problem. We tried rebuilding the file per those methods but it didn't solve the problem. I don't think I can send the file without permission. I can give you as many details about the task itself and summary tasks as you need, though. "JulieS" wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 PM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,Sorry. Hi Adrienne, Sorry. I can't possibly trouble shoot a specific file issue without actually seeing the file. There are far too many variables involved and particularly as this is happening with only one file, my guess is it is a corrupt file. I am unable to create a scenario in testing where I can duplicate what you report. As an aside, why do you want to baseline the task if it already has been baselined? You note 18 hours of baseline work. Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A4AA008F-35F2-4745-8E86-CB3EC203C24D(a)microsoft.com... On Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:39 PM Adrienn wrote: Actually, it's happening with two different project plans. Actually, it's happening with two different project plans. Otherwise, I'd also say it's file corruption. Everything was fine before some people entered actuals into PWA. The project admin states that a save-as to Baseline 1 isn't acceptable as they need to have the original baseline numbers, not a baseline of what the work column currently is. I'll see if the project admin would be OK with having you look at the file; however, there's sticky client confidentiality stuff to deal with. :-( "JulieS" wrote: On Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:12 AM JulieS wrote: Hi Adrienne,I didn't know until now that you were using Project server. Hi Adrienne, I didn't know until now that you were using Project server. I'm not sure (I don't use server nor pwa extensively) if that is playing into this issue. Is your server install also at SP-1 with the IU? Julie "Adrienne" <Adrienne(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0B57B244-E07B-4BE4-8B41-4B659C573190(a)microsoft.com... On Monday, November 03, 2008 10:11 PM Peter McSharry wrote: Baseline work does not roll up correctly I am also experiencing the same issue. We're also using Project Server 2007 with IU. If I find out what the root cause is I will post it here. 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