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From: Wendy R on 2 Aug 2005 11:51 I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on your computer." In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected. ....System Security." I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't work. Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on my pc? How can I fix whatever the problem is? Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. -- Wendy check out my store! www.booxtop.com
From: Bob I on 2 Aug 2005 12:22 I think you have hardware problems, it may be due to a low CMOS battery, which may be replaced(small coin battery on motherboard) If it is due to motherboard/BIOS damage you may need to get a repair shop to take care of it. Wendy R wrote: > I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn off > my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the system has > been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then turn on your > computer." > > In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I > also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected. > ...System Security." > > I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I > started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and > sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't work. > > Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an > ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on my > pc? > > How can I fix whatever the problem is? > > Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. >
From: Patrick Keenan on 2 Aug 2005 12:23 "Wendy R" <swramsay(a)wwdb.org> wrote in message news:uL%23cOo3lFHA.3448(a)TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn > off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the > system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then > turn on your computer." > > In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I > also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected. > ...System Security." > > I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I > started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and > sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't work. > > Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an > ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on > my pc? > > How can I fix whatever the problem is? > > Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. > > -- > Wendy > check out my store! > www.booxtop.com You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and they may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right at startup before any of the Windows screens? These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages to it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come anywhere near where the problem is actually located. It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large company - that it has some asset control software running as a service. If you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this) you can simply disable it. You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that, find a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have some small amount of professional service for this. HTH -pk
From: Wendy R on 2 Aug 2005 14:32 Yes, the messages are before the Windows page at startup. Need to turn off and on 1 to 3 times before it will go to the Windows page. Yes, this pc came from an insurance company. I will try to snoop around to find what you have mentioned. Can you point me in the right direction to find (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this)? Sorry...not very adept at hardware stuff. thanks again! -- Wendy check out my store! www.booxtop.com "Patrick Keenan" <test(a)dev.null> wrote in message news:s6NHe.4047$z91.326827(a)news20.bellglobal.com... > "Wendy R" <swramsay(a)wwdb.org> wrote in message > news:uL%23cOo3lFHA.3448(a)TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn >> off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the >> system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then >> turn on your computer." >> >> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I >> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected. >> ...System Security." >> >> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I >> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and >> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't >> work. >> >> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an >> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on >> my pc? >> >> How can I fix whatever the problem is? >> >> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. >> >> -- >> Wendy >> check out my store! >> www.booxtop.com > > You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and > they may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right at > startup before any of the Windows screens? > > These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of > anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages to > it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come anywhere > near where the problem is actually located. > > It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large > company - that it has some asset control software running as a service. > If you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this) you > can simply disable it. > > You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's > BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that, > find a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the > manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the > sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have > some small amount of professional service for this. > > HTH > -pk >
From: Patrick Keenan on 2 Aug 2005 19:00 "Wendy R" <swramsay(a)wwdb.org> wrote in message news:%23FNhBC5lFHA.572(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Yes, the messages are before the Windows page at startup. Need to turn off > and on 1 to 3 times before it will go to the Windows page. Yes, this pc > came from an insurance company. I will try to snoop around to find what > you have mentioned. Can you point me in the right direction to find > (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this)? Sorry...not very > adept at hardware stuff. > > thanks again! Start Windows, and go to Start, Run, and type MSCONFIG, then press enter. it should start and there is a tab for 'services'. This lists the things that run as services, and you'll need to go through the lists to see if any of them are related to asset management software. When you identify these, de-select them and restart the machine. However, the problem arises before Windows knows anything about this. The place to start is in the BIOS. Hopefully they didn't password protect that - if so, you'll need to try to get the password. If it is password protected and you can't get the password, contact the manufacturer for a workaround or a way to clear the password. This isn't always easy. You should have a look at the manufacturer's site to see if you can find the system manuals, which will tell you what settings to change. HTH -pk > > -- > Wendy > check out my store! > www.booxtop.com > "Patrick Keenan" <test(a)dev.null> wrote in message > news:s6NHe.4047$z91.326827(a)news20.bellglobal.com... >> "Wendy R" <swramsay(a)wwdb.org> wrote in message >> news:uL%23cOo3lFHA.3448(a)TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> I've been having this problem for a while. Most of the time when I turn >>> off my pc and then start the next morning, I get the message "176 the >>> system has been tampered with. The keyboard is locked. Turn off and then >>> turn on your computer." >>> >>> In addition to that, I receive various messages at times. This morning I >>> also got "RF ID tag has changed. 184 Asset Control antenna not detected. >>> ...System Security." >>> >>> I have used system restore back to a time that I believe was before I >>> started receiving these messages but to no avail. I have run adaware and >>> sypware a few times thinking that may be the problem and that didn't >>> work. >>> >>> Is this a serious problem that can end up in a system crash? Or just an >>> ongoing nuisance that can continue to be resolved by turning off then on >>> my pc? >>> >>> How can I fix whatever the problem is? >>> >>> Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. >>> >>> -- >>> Wendy >>> check out my store! >>> www.booxtop.com >> >> You apparently have a machine with asset control hardware sensors, and >> they may be failing. When, exactly, do these messages appear? Right >> at startup before any of the Windows screens? >> >> These messages often come from the BIOS level and don't have much of >> anything to do with the operating system, though they may pass messages >> to it. Spyware tools and system restores will probably not come >> anywhere near where the problem is actually located. >> >> It is possible - if your machine is used and was obtained from a large >> company - that it has some asset control software running as a service. >> If you locate this (MSCONFIG, the Services tab can help you with this) >> you can simply disable it. >> >> You might want to look closely at the security settings in the machine's >> BIOS, and turn off whatever appears to be related to this. Past that, >> find a service manual for that machine - if you look carefully at the >> manufacturer's site you should be able to find that- and disconnect the >> sensors, after turning off the BIOS settings. You might need to have >> some small amount of professional service for this. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> > >
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