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From: Earl Partridge on 5 Mar 2010 19:06 I ordered the $295 upgrade job, and with my VB4 I believe I qualify for the upgrade. So, it's a hobby, us retired folks got to have something to keep us busy, never any vacation or holidays. Earl "mayayana" <mayayana(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eKHnG9KvKHA.3896(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I hope you ordered the right one. Note that the > SDKs are not VB, and the learning edition is > limited. I only see two things there that are actually > VB: > > Visual Basic 6.0 Professional, competitive/version upgrade, CD > $295 > > Visual Basic 6.0 Professional with W2K kit, CD > $895 > > The former seems to be an upgrade CD. So with that > there's a question of what qualifies for an upgrade. > >> Thanks... I think. I just called the EMS and ordered it. >> Earl >> > > >
From: Earl Partridge on 5 Mar 2010 19:07 But VB4 won't work with Windows 7... right? At least my Windows 7 (64 bit) wouldn't let me load it. Earl "Nobody" <nobody(a)nobody.com> wrote in message news:OaBhyhKvKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Earl Partridge" <earlp(a)pearnet.com> wrote in message > news:%23jCXJHKvKHA.3896(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> OK, I'm convinced, VB Express is not for me. >> Will VB 6 run/work with Windows 7? If so, any suggestions where I could >> find VB 6... and at what price? I have shopped around a bit but nothing >> really popped up that impressed me... > > If it's for hobby, you can stick with VB4-32 Bits. VB5/6 main advantage is > callback support from API functions by using AddressOf operator, and I am > not sure at which version classes were introduced. A good similar > alternative to VB6 is KBasic, but the IDE is poor. It takes more effort to > make GUI apps because of this, but the syntax is 100% compatible with VB6, > and it's multiplatform. > > http://www.kbasic.com/ > > >
From: Mike Williams on 6 Mar 2010 04:26 "Earl Partridge" <earlp(a)pearnet.com> wrote in message news:%23gXFVDMvKHA.5936(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I ordered the $295 upgrade job . . . So, it's a hobby, us > retired folks got to have something to keep us busy, > never any vacation or holidays. I'll second that! Personally I will spend any amount of money on a hobby that I really enjoy, as long as none of it gets back to Micro$oft ;-) In your case Micro$oft have clearly already had the money for the product you are purchasing, so that wouldn't be a problem ;-) Mike
From: Mike Williams on 6 Mar 2010 05:06 "Earl Partridge" <earlp(a)pearnet.com> wrote in message news:eZk5QEMvKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > But VB4 won't work with Windows 7... right? At least > my Windows 7 (64 bit) wouldn't let me load it. I know that VB4 32 bit will run in Vista, although you've got to right click the installer and select "run as admin" and I think there is also a dll that you need to manually register. I'm not sure about Win7 though (although you should be able to run it in a virtual machine if it doesn't install on Win7 itself). In any case, you're probably better off with VB6. Regarding the upgrade copy you've just ordered, did you actually check whether VB4 qualifies for the upgrade, and the mechanics of doing it using just your VB4 key if it is not installed on Win7? It's probably okay, and personally I've never used an upgrade copy so I simply don't know the details, but I'm just wondering if you checked those things? Otherwise, if you have serious problems with it then post again . . . somebody might just have an alternative solution ;-) As far as the law is concerned I don't worry too much about software licences. The way I look at it, if the software supplier has almost no legal responsibilities regarding whether or not his software works properly (as is the case) then I don't see why I should worry about my so-called legal responsibilities to them. If consumer rights law regarding software ever does move into the 21st Century (or even into the 20th Century!) and if it ever does catch up with consumer rights laws regarding tangible goods, then I might change my mind on that point ;-) Mike
From: ralph on 6 Mar 2010 09:50
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:06:06 -0000, "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote: >"Earl Partridge" <earlp(a)pearnet.com> wrote in message >news:eZk5QEMvKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> But VB4 won't work with Windows 7... right? At least >> my Windows 7 (64 bit) wouldn't let me load it. > >I know that VB4 32 bit will run in Vista, although you've got to right click >the installer and select "run as admin" and I think there is also a dll that >you need to manually register. I'm not sure about Win7 though (although you >should be able to run it in a virtual machine if it doesn't install on Win7 >itself). In any case, you're probably better off with VB6. Regarding the >upgrade copy you've just ordered, did you actually check whether VB4 >qualifies for the upgrade, and the mechanics of doing it using just your VB4 >key if it is not installed on Win7? It's probably okay, and personally I've >never used an upgrade copy so I simply don't know the details, but I'm just >wondering if you checked those things? Otherwise, if you have serious >problems with it then post again . . . somebody might just have an >alternative solution ;-) As far as the law is concerned I don't worry too >much about software licences. The way I look at it, if the software supplier >has almost no legal responsibilities regarding whether or not his software >works properly (as is the case) then I don't see why I should worry about my >so-called legal responsibilities to them. If consumer rights law regarding >software ever does move into the 21st Century (or even into the 20th >Century!) and if it ever does catch up with consumer rights laws regarding >tangible goods, then I might change my mind on that point ;-) > >Mike > > AFAIK the upgrade simply checks for a file and a Registry Entry/s. Don't remember it ever asking for a CD/Disc. If the OP saved his old VB4 "Microsoft VB" folder, he can copy that over to Windows 7 to handle the "file". He might want to consider downloading the utilities from SysInternals. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062.aspx Use it to determine what the upgrade is looking for, should he run into any problems. And he will likely need the SP6 service pack. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9EF9BF70-DFE1-42A1-A4C8-39718C7E381D&displaylang=en -ralph |