From: Helpful person on 9 Dec 2008 12:18 On Dec 9, 11:58 am, Ib <I...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Hi Ron. > > Thanks for your good advise. Maybe I will try to install Frontpage and make > the "repair" of Office. Maybe... > > Well, yes and no, I have looked at little bit on Expression Web, not much.. I > will try it out. I have downloaded the "Visual Web Developer 2008 Express > Edition" for some days ago. It's more easy to use, but still not very good > for "dummies" and miss some of the goood features from Frontpage. I have to > admit, that Dreamweaver looks more easy ond logical. But I will try out the > Exp. Web. > > /Ib > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > Have you looked at Expression Web as an alternative: > >http://www.microsoft.com/expression > > > There is no need to un-install Office 2007 : > > > Open Word 2007 > > Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options, > > Click Resources, and then next to run Microsoft Office Diagnostics, > > click Diagnose. > > > If you install FP2003 *after* Office 2007 some Office 2007 tools and > > common components may be overwritten by the Office 2003 components. > > Repairing (*not* re-installing) Office 2007 should rectify this > > potential problem -it's why the programs should be installed in the > > order they are retailed. > > > -- > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > >http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > "Ib" <I...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >news:A434D7CE-224A-45E2-B8D8-B625AD05E7E4(a)microsoft.com: > > > > Okay I see, when I have the latest Vista Business SP1, this issue should be > > > solved about the fetures inside Frontpage, but I have install it in the right > > > order. After installing Office 2007. Then I have to uninstall the whole > > > Office with my e-amil and so on ... > > > > What I don't understand is, why Frontpage is workning on the old Win XP PC, > > > where the install of Fronpage was made AFTER installing Office 2007? > > > > Am I understanding it correct, that I have to run af "repair" of Office > > > 2007, if I install Frontpage on my Vista PC, AFTER Office 2007 is installed? > > > The "Office Repair"? I'm not in the mood to uninstall Office and I'm not > > > happy to "repair" anything which work 100% today. > > > > The Sharepoint Designer is too much to me, but the Dreamweaver from Adobe > > > looks more for "dummies" like me. Maybe that's the way out of the problem. > > > > I can't have an Win XP PC in the future only for Frontpage .... :o) > > > > /Ib > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > The only problem I know of is the Hyperlink dialogue crashes FrontPage - > > > > this is cured by installing Vista SP1. > > > > > The programs have to be installed in chronological order - FrontPage > > > > 2003 first, then Office 2007. This applies to Windows XP as well.. If > > > > installed the other way round, then Office may have to be repaired. > > > > -- > > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > >http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > "Ib" <I...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > >news:55DD8BAF-4F56-4FEF-A1B4-7391CCDC0C58(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > I have got a new PC with Vista Business and Office 2007. I want to use my > > > > > old Frontpage 2003, and before installing Frontpage, I have read here and > > > > > there, that it is a problem to install and use Frontpage together with Office > > > > > 2007 + Vista. > > > > > > What problem can I expect? > > > > > > I have used Frontpage + Office 2007 + Win XP SP2, together with no problems. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > /Ib- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Instead of learning a new program, with all its quirks, why not program directly in HTML and CSS? It's no more difficult.
From: Ronx on 9 Dec 2008 12:22 The Visual Web 2008 Express Edition uses the Expression Web design pane, and is really aimed at web programmers, not web designers. -- Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:02817F6A-B289-4660-8244-D1AE0ED7341A(a)microsoft.com: > Hi Ron. > > Thanks for your good advise. Maybe I will try to install Frontpage and make > the "repair" of Office. Maybe... > > Well, yes and no, I have looked at little bit on Expression Web, not much. I > will try it out. I have downloaded the "Visual Web Developer 2008 Express > Edition" for some days ago. It's more easy to use, but still not very good > for "dummies" and miss some of the goood features from Frontpage. I have to > admit, that Dreamweaver looks more easy ond logical. But I will try out the > Exp. Web. > > /Ib > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > Have you looked at Expression Web as an alternative: > > http://www.microsoft.com/expression > > > > > > There is no need to un-install Office 2007 : > > > > Open Word 2007 > > Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options, > > Click Resources, and then next to run Microsoft Office Diagnostics, > > click Diagnose. > > > > If you install FP2003 *after* Office 2007 some Office 2007 tools and > > common components may be overwritten by the Office 2003 components. > > Repairing (*not* re-installing) Office 2007 should rectify this > > potential problem -it's why the programs should be installed in the > > order they are retailed. > > > > -- > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:A434D7CE-224A-45E2-B8D8-B625AD05E7E4(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > Okay I see, when I have the latest Vista Business SP1, this issue should be > > > solved about the fetures inside Frontpage, but I have install it in the right > > > order. After installing Office 2007. Then I have to uninstall the whole > > > Office with my e-amil and so on ... > > > > > > What I don't understand is, why Frontpage is workning on the old Win XP PC, > > > where the install of Fronpage was made AFTER installing Office 2007? > > > > > > Am I understanding it correct, that I have to run af "repair" of Office > > > 2007, if I install Frontpage on my Vista PC, AFTER Office 2007 is installed? > > > The "Office Repair"? I'm not in the mood to uninstall Office and I'm not > > > happy to "repair" anything which work 100% today. > > > > > > The Sharepoint Designer is too much to me, but the Dreamweaver from Adobe > > > looks more for "dummies" like me. Maybe that's the way out of the problem. > > > > > > I can't have an Win XP PC in the future only for Frontpage .... :o) > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > > > The only problem I know of is the Hyperlink dialogue crashes FrontPage - > > > > this is cured by installing Vista SP1. > > > > > > > > The programs have to be installed in chronological order - FrontPage > > > > 2003 first, then Office 2007. This applies to Windows XP as well. If > > > > installed the other way round, then Office may have to be repaired. > > > > -- > > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:55DD8BAF-4F56-4FEF-A1B4-7391CCDC0C58(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > > > > > I have got a new PC with Vista Business and Office 2007. I want to use my > > > > > old Frontpage 2003, and before installing Frontpage, I have read here and > > > > > there, that it is a problem to install and use Frontpage together with Office > > > > > 2007 + Vista. > > > > > > > > > > What problem can I expect? > > > > > > > > > > I have used Frontpage + Office 2007 + Win XP SP2, together with no problems. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > > > > > > >
From: Ib on 9 Dec 2008 13:07 Hi. Of course you're right, but I do not make or change websites so often. Then I'm sure I forget how to do ... :o) /Ib "Helpful person" wrote: > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Instead of learning a new program, with all its quirks, why not > program directly in HTML and CSS? It's no more difficult. >
From: Ib on 9 Dec 2008 15:17 Ron. Now I have installed Frontpage 2003 and did the "repair" from Office 2007. Frontpage worked fine, until the first Micsoft Update. The Frontpage tells me every time I start it, that it is stopped workeing an shuts down the pgrogram. The second time I start Frontpage, I can start in a so called SAFE MODE, and then Frontpage starts up, with som features disablet, I can see. I can see in the Microsoft update, that there is made an Office 2003 update for Frontpage. Is this the problem? Do I removed this update? /Ib "Ronx" wrote: > The Visual Web 2008 Express Edition uses the Expression Web design pane, > and is really aimed at web programmers, not web designers. > > -- > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:02817F6A-B289-4660-8244-D1AE0ED7341A(a)microsoft.com: > > > Hi Ron. > > > > Thanks for your good advise. Maybe I will try to install Frontpage and make > > the "repair" of Office. Maybe... > > > > Well, yes and no, I have looked at little bit on Expression Web, not much. I > > will try it out. I have downloaded the "Visual Web Developer 2008 Express > > Edition" for some days ago. It's more easy to use, but still not very good > > for "dummies" and miss some of the goood features from Frontpage. I have to > > admit, that Dreamweaver looks more easy ond logical. But I will try out the > > Exp. Web. > > > > /Ib > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > Have you looked at Expression Web as an alternative: > > > http://www.microsoft.com/expression > > > > > > > > > There is no need to un-install Office 2007 : > > > > > > Open Word 2007 > > > Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options, > > > Click Resources, and then next to run Microsoft Office Diagnostics, > > > click Diagnose. > > > > > > If you install FP2003 *after* Office 2007 some Office 2007 tools and > > > common components may be overwritten by the Office 2003 components. > > > Repairing (*not* re-installing) Office 2007 should rectify this > > > potential problem -it's why the programs should be installed in the > > > order they are retailed. > > > > > > -- > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:A434D7CE-224A-45E2-B8D8-B625AD05E7E4(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > > Okay I see, when I have the latest Vista Business SP1, this issue should be > > > > solved about the fetures inside Frontpage, but I have install it in the right > > > > order. After installing Office 2007. Then I have to uninstall the whole > > > > Office with my e-amil and so on ... > > > > > > > > What I don't understand is, why Frontpage is workning on the old Win XP PC, > > > > where the install of Fronpage was made AFTER installing Office 2007? > > > > > > > > Am I understanding it correct, that I have to run af "repair" of Office > > > > 2007, if I install Frontpage on my Vista PC, AFTER Office 2007 is installed? > > > > The "Office Repair"? I'm not in the mood to uninstall Office and I'm not > > > > happy to "repair" anything which work 100% today. > > > > > > > > The Sharepoint Designer is too much to me, but the Dreamweaver from Adobe > > > > looks more for "dummies" like me. Maybe that's the way out of the problem. > > > > > > > > I can't have an Win XP PC in the future only for Frontpage .... :o) > > > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > > > > > The only problem I know of is the Hyperlink dialogue crashes FrontPage - > > > > > this is cured by installing Vista SP1. > > > > > > > > > > The programs have to be installed in chronological order - FrontPage > > > > > 2003 first, then Office 2007. This applies to Windows XP as well. If > > > > > installed the other way round, then Office may have to be repaired. > > > > > -- > > > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:55DD8BAF-4F56-4FEF-A1B4-7391CCDC0C58(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have got a new PC with Vista Business and Office 2007. I want to use my > > > > > > old Frontpage 2003, and before installing Frontpage, I have read here and > > > > > > there, that it is a problem to install and use Frontpage together with Office > > > > > > 2007 + Vista. > > > > > > > > > > > > What problem can I expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used Frontpage + Office 2007 + Win XP SP2, together with no problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
From: Ib on 9 Dec 2008 17:10 Hi Ron - again :o) Just for your information - and others: I recovered the system and hide the Microsoft Office 2003 update, and Vista will no more prompt me for that update. I made the normal update ther were at that time. Everything seems okay now, and I can use the Frontpage 2003. Yes! /Ib "Ib" wrote: > Ron. > > Now I have installed Frontpage 2003 and did the "repair" from Office 2007. > Frontpage worked fine, until the first Micsoft Update. The Frontpage tells me > every time I start it, that it is stopped workeing an shuts down the > pgrogram. The second time I start Frontpage, I can start in a so called SAFE > MODE, and then Frontpage starts up, with som features disablet, I can see. > > I can see in the Microsoft update, that there is made an Office 2003 update > for Frontpage. Is this the problem? > > Do I removed this update? > > /Ib > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > The Visual Web 2008 Express Edition uses the Expression Web design pane, > > and is really aimed at web programmers, not web designers. > > > > -- > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:02817F6A-B289-4660-8244-D1AE0ED7341A(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > Hi Ron. > > > > > > Thanks for your good advise. Maybe I will try to install Frontpage and make > > > the "repair" of Office. Maybe... > > > > > > Well, yes and no, I have looked at little bit on Expression Web, not much. I > > > will try it out. I have downloaded the "Visual Web Developer 2008 Express > > > Edition" for some days ago. It's more easy to use, but still not very good > > > for "dummies" and miss some of the goood features from Frontpage. I have to > > > admit, that Dreamweaver looks more easy ond logical. But I will try out the > > > Exp. Web. > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > > > Have you looked at Expression Web as an alternative: > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/expression > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no need to un-install Office 2007 : > > > > > > > > Open Word 2007 > > > > Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options, > > > > Click Resources, and then next to run Microsoft Office Diagnostics, > > > > click Diagnose. > > > > > > > > If you install FP2003 *after* Office 2007 some Office 2007 tools and > > > > common components may be overwritten by the Office 2003 components. > > > > Repairing (*not* re-installing) Office 2007 should rectify this > > > > potential problem -it's why the programs should be installed in the > > > > order they are retailed. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:A434D7CE-224A-45E2-B8D8-B625AD05E7E4(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > > > > Okay I see, when I have the latest Vista Business SP1, this issue should be > > > > > solved about the fetures inside Frontpage, but I have install it in the right > > > > > order. After installing Office 2007. Then I have to uninstall the whole > > > > > Office with my e-amil and so on ... > > > > > > > > > > What I don't understand is, why Frontpage is workning on the old Win XP PC, > > > > > where the install of Fronpage was made AFTER installing Office 2007? > > > > > > > > > > Am I understanding it correct, that I have to run af "repair" of Office > > > > > 2007, if I install Frontpage on my Vista PC, AFTER Office 2007 is installed? > > > > > The "Office Repair"? I'm not in the mood to uninstall Office and I'm not > > > > > happy to "repair" anything which work 100% today. > > > > > > > > > > The Sharepoint Designer is too much to me, but the Dreamweaver from Adobe > > > > > looks more for "dummies" like me. Maybe that's the way out of the problem. > > > > > > > > > > I can't have an Win XP PC in the future only for Frontpage .... :o) > > > > > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > > > > > "Ronx" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The only problem I know of is the Hyperlink dialogue crashes FrontPage - > > > > > > this is cured by installing Vista SP1. > > > > > > > > > > > > The programs have to be installed in chronological order - FrontPage > > > > > > 2003 first, then Office 2007. This applies to Windows XP as well. If > > > > > > installed the other way round, then Office may have to be repaired. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (Expression) > > > > > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ib" <Ib(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:55DD8BAF-4F56-4FEF-A1B4-7391CCDC0C58(a)microsoft.com: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have got a new PC with Vista Business and Office 2007. I want to use my > > > > > > > old Frontpage 2003, and before installing Frontpage, I have read here and > > > > > > > there, that it is a problem to install and use Frontpage together with Office > > > > > > > 2007 + Vista. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What problem can I expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used Frontpage + Office 2007 + Win XP SP2, together with no problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /Ib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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