Why don't camera reviews cover the data connection to the PC?
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From: Pat Cheney on 27 Dec 2008 14:40 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:11:16 -0800, John Navas wrote: > The best flash drive diagnostic I know of is H2TestW: > <http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/> Interesting. Once again, John, you gave expert advice where many fell flat! I ran the ChipGenius version 2.64 program with the "Chip Database Rev. 2008-12-26" on the corrupted Sandisk 4GB SDHC flash card on a Motorola USB cable (presumably a standard 5-pin mini-usb cable). Amazingly, this Chinese ChipGenius program recognized the card when Windows couldn't! I'm not sure how to interpret the results but here is the log file. Device Name: +[E:]+USB Mass Storage Device(Multi Flash Reader USB Device) PnP Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6366 Serial Number: 058F0O1111B1 Revision: 1.00 Device Type: Standard USB device - USB2.0 High-Speed Chip Vendor: Alcor Chip Part-Number: AU6366/AU6371 Product Vendor: (N/A) Product Model: (N/A) Tools on Web: (N/A)
From: John Navas on 27 Dec 2008 15:00 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:40:17 -0800, Pat Cheney <pcheney(a)ymail.com> wrote in <oyv5l.10841$yr3.6368(a)nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>: >On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:11:16 -0800, John Navas wrote: > >> The best flash drive diagnostic I know of is H2TestW: >> <http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/> > >Interesting. Once again, John, you gave expert advice where many fell flat! >I ran the ChipGenius version 2.64 program with the "Chip Database Rev. >2008-12-26" on the corrupted Sandisk 4GB SDHC flash card on a Motorola USB >cable (presumably a standard 5-pin mini-usb cable). > >Amazingly, this Chinese ChipGenius program recognized the card when Windows >couldn't! Windows is talking about the file system. This program is talking about the hardware. Different things. -- Very best wishes for the holiday season and for the coming new year, John
From: Pat Cheney on 27 Dec 2008 23:07 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:55:04 -0800, John Navas wrote: > It does say something to those familiar with the terms. > Your problem was lack of knowledge, not bad information. So true! The good news is I'm now familiar with the terms! I feel like I just joined a secret society. It's very empowering to finally understand what went wrong. BTW, the Panasonic SDFormatter freeware ended with a message: SDFormatter V2.0.0.3 Drive: E:\ Size: 3.79 GB Format Options: - Full Format (Flash Erase ON) - Format Size Adjustment Off SDFormatter Drive Format complete ! Full Format ("Flash Erase" operation has been canceled because this device didn't support it.) Volume information - File System: FAT32 - Total Space: 3.78 GB (4,066,902,016 Bytes) - Cluster Size: 32768 Bytes But, when placed in the flash card reader, Windows still considered it a RAW unformatted disk! :( I'm running the suggested WinXP "Computer Management" program now in order to "delete the partition" to see if that helps. If not, now that the photos are off the card, I think I'll just return it (the Sandisk ultra II flash card is only a couple of months old).
From: Pat Cheney on 27 Dec 2008 23:26 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:07:32 -0800, Pat Cheney wrote: > I'm running the suggested WinXP "Computer Management" program now in order > to "delete the partition" to see if that helps. I dutifully followed the suggested instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309000 for deleting a partition but failed. In hind sight, these instructions couldn't have worked with the card in the card reader or with the card in the camera because when I right clicked on the E: drive in the WinXP SP3 "Computer Management" program, the "Delete Partition" menu item was grayed out. The Microsoft Disk Management program just says: Disk 1 Removable 3.80 GB Online, Healthy, Primary Partition Type: Removable Disk File system: RAW Of course, just as before, I could "Format" the card only when it was connected to the camera but not when it was connected to the card reader (I tested this on multiple machines). But, even after this fifth format, the card works perfectly in the camera but doesn't work at all when placed in the card reader (I tried two different card readers). I give up. Thanks for all the help. We solved the first of three "problems" but the other two are a different topic altogether than what was first asked. 1. The Casio EXILIM camera port is USB/AV and therefore not mini-USB 2. The Motorola mini-USB equipment is not the same as the Blackberry's 3. I somehow irreversibly corrupted my 4GB Sandisk UltraII flash card Thank you all and, if I don't see you again, have a Happy New Year!
From: John Navas on 28 Dec 2008 10:42
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:07:32 -0800, Pat Cheney <pcheney(a)ymail.com> wrote in <9_C5l.11212$x%.8865(a)nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>: >On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:55:04 -0800, John Navas wrote: > >> It does say something to those familiar with the terms. >> Your problem was lack of knowledge, not bad information. > >So true! The good news is I'm now familiar with the terms! >I feel like I just joined a secret society. >It's very empowering to finally understand what went wrong. > >BTW, the Panasonic SDFormatter freeware ended with a message: I did not ask you to run that. I asked you to use Disk Management. -- Very best wishes for the holiday season and for the coming new year, John |