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From: Terry R. on
On 4/6/2010 9:39 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard

> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
> news:ObyElRa1KHA.5972(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers
>>> <bchambers(a)cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>> What brand of computer do you have?
>>>>>
>>>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from
>>>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back
>>>> of the power supply.)
>>>
>>> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,
>>> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the
>>> back of the power supply.
>>>
>> Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last 8-10
>> years with a switch on the PS.
>>
>>
>> Terry R.

>
> If I was still working, I could send you pictures of 11 Dell workstations
> (if they still have them all) that have the switch on the PS. I don't
> remember the model number, but they are all high-end CAD stations about 5 or
> 6 years old.

I have seen hundreds of Dell's and never seen one with a power switch on
the PS. Of course I haven't seen every model, so you might be right.

But why does that stick out to you on a computer that would cause you to
be so sure? The only reason I know is I have replaced the PS on a lot
of them. Nothing more frustrating that having to find one without the
switch so it will mount properly.


Terry R.
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From: SC Tom on

"Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> It's a GeForce MX 4000
>
>
> Jack
>
>
That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI
video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg
for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .
Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the problem
you're seeing.
Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and
installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have now
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

From: Jack B on
Tom,

Yes, that's the driver I have now and the same one I've had since I've had
the MX4000 which I got in 2006 or 2007. It is the driver I removed and
reinstalled. It is the latest driver for that card. No, I don't have
another card to use.

Everything seems to be working now, but I haven't attempted to stress the
system yet. I'll probably do that tomorrow.


Jack


"SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message
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"Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> It's a GeForce MX 4000
>
>
> Jack
>
>
That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI
video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg
for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .
Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the problem
you're seeing.
Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and
installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have now
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.


From: SC Tom on

"Terry R." <F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
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> On 4/6/2010 9:39 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard
>
>> "Terry R."<F1Com(a)NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:ObyElRa1KHA.5972(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the
>>> keyboard
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers
>>>> <bchambers(a)cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>>> What brand of computer do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from
>>>>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the
>>>>> back
>>>>> of the power supply.)
>>>>
>>>> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,
>>>> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the
>>>> back of the power supply.
>>>>
>>> Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last
>>> 8-10
>>> years with a switch on the PS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry R.
>
>>
>> If I was still working, I could send you pictures of 11 Dell workstations
>> (if they still have them all) that have the switch on the PS. I don't
>> remember the model number, but they are all high-end CAD stations about 5
>> or
>> 6 years old.
>
> I have seen hundreds of Dell's and never seen one with a power switch on
> the PS. Of course I haven't seen every model, so you might be right.
>
> But why does that stick out to you on a computer that would cause you to
> be so sure? The only reason I know is I have replaced the PS on a lot of
> them. Nothing more frustrating that having to find one without the switch
> so it will mount properly.
>
>
> Terry R.
> --
> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

I had to replace the MB on two of them, the PS on one, the graphics card on
two or three of them, and RAM on at least half of them, so I was in, out,
and around them a lot more than I should have been. I can remember on the
one with the bad PS that the one that came out had the switch, but the
(upgraded?) one they sent me as a replacement didn't. Just thought it
strange that it wasn't an identical replacement since that unit was less
than a year old at the time.
I wish I could remember the model number since I had an inordinate amount of
hardware go bad on such a small group of workstations, especially
considering the price we paid for them. Didn't exactly give me the warm and
fuzzies later on when I was told we were getting a single Dell server to
replace the two out-dated solid-as-a-rock HP's we were currently running.
The Dell server also had switches on the power supplies. I remember that
because I had to install the redundant one, and while sliding it into the
rack, I must have accidentally turned it off somehow. I slid it back out a
little, reached over it, and turned it back on.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

From: SC Tom on
Another thing to consider- I don't know where you are located, but it's
getting pretty warm and humid here in SC, not quite enough for the AC, but
enough for the ceiling fan to be left on all the time. Is the room where you
have the PC any warmer now than during the winter; got good circulation
around the PC? Just a thought.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

"Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Tom,
>
> Yes, that's the driver I have now and the same one I've had since I've had
> the MX4000 which I got in 2006 or 2007. It is the driver I removed and
> reinstalled. It is the latest driver for that card. No, I don't have
> another card to use.
>
> Everything seems to be working now, but I haven't attempted to stress the
> system yet. I'll probably do that tomorrow.
>
>
> Jack
>
>
> "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message
> news:evOVP6f1KHA.264(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:euoJ17e1KHA.5328(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> It's a GeForce MX 4000
>>
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
> That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI
> video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg
> for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .
> Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the
> problem
> you're seeing.
> Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and
> installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have
> now
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?
> --
> SC Tom
>
> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
>
>

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