From: Anonymous on
In article <2f0f7874-acc6-45cf-b0e4-36a8ac6e02ac(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Apr 22, 11:39?pm, docdw...(a)panix.com () wrote:
>> In article <8bd265df-3b40-4a58-b85c-030efa2b6...(a)r1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Alistair ?<alist...(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >I'm 5-(cough) years old and about 20 years ago (in
>> >Doc's golden haze) I heard a radio programme where the commentator
>> >said that any one older than 30 years had to be racist because of the
>> >influences they were exposed to. Methinks he was right and the gray-
>> >hairs (or silver-backs if you prefer) are sub-consciously racist even
>> >where they are not overtly so.
>>
>> Racist? ?Pfawgh, not a Chinaman's Chance for that. ?Perhaps someone who
>> has less of a Scotsman's Purse might wish to wager otherwise and hope
>> there's no Welshing involved.
>>
>
>
>How can I come back in answer to that one? And don't ask me to do my
>own homework!

Three retired Brigadiers were having a glass and discussing which of the
varied troops from various parts of The Empire were the best fighters.

'I'd have to say the Sikhs,' said the first, 'utter fearless, utterly
ruthless.'

'Oh, I'd have to say the Gurkhas,' replied the second, 'as Mankeshaw said,
'If a man says he is not afraid of dying he is either a liar or a he is a
Gurkha.''

The third pondered long and hard before supplying 'Well, I'd have to say
the best fighters of the various Empire troops are the Irish... as long
as they're lead by a white man, of course.'

(although I heard this long, long before the film was made this sentiment
is promulgated in 'The Commitments', see
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101605/quotes?qt0310978 )

DD

From: Anonymous on
In article <sag3t5lpbevno2nrlufvddhl5li49uqfrj(a)4ax.com>,
SkippyPB <swiegand(a)Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:30:26 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:

[snip]

>>And for anyone interested... it might be interesting to Compare and
>>Contrast Mr Leadbetter's work (previewable at
>><http://www.thecardiffdevils.com/Leadbelly/download-Leadbellys_Last_Sessions_CD_1_of_4/release42187.html>)
>>with 'Ain't It Grand to Live A Christian' by Blind Willie McTell
>>(previewable at
>><http://www.rhapsody.com/blind-willie-mctell/statesboro-blues-the-early-years-1927-1935>)
>>and muse over the Musician's Creed of 'hear a lick, steal a lick'.
>
>"Hear a lick, steal a lick" -- very true -- just ask Eric Clapton :)
>If it weren't for Willie Dixon and Robert Johnson, there might not be
>any good licks.

What came to my mind while writing that was Lonnie Johnson's 'To Do This
You Got To Know How', which struck me when I first heard it as 'Every
Standard Lick Strung Together'.

>Except for those created by Jimmy Hendrix but he was
>in a class of his own and on his own planet.

In 1966 the treacly 'Born Free' received an Acadamey Award for Best
Original Song and endless, *endless* airplay.

In 1967 Jimi Hendrix released 'Purple Haze', which struck me on first
hearing as 'This is nigh Stravinsky'. (Stravinsky's music does not please
all ears alike but few deny his place as Someone Who Changed The Way The
World Hears Music.)

DD

From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:03:28 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:

>>I have always had a hard time reading dialect. When someone spells a
>>word to show how someone pronounces it, I have to solve it like a
>>puzzle instead of hear it. To me, a word either gets processed by a
>>compiler the way it expects, or it doesn't.
>
>I dearly, *dearly* hope - and despite having been repeatedly disappointed
>in the past continue, springing eternally, to do so - that the human minds
>I address are a bit more elastic in their error-handling capabilities than
>compilers. It may be off-topic in this newsgroup but... in one of my
>first attempts to write a COBOL program I coded the CONFIGURATION SECTION
>to include a statement of SOURCE-COMPUTTER.

Well, I'm not quite that dense, but I sometimes have a hard time
guessing of meanings of mistakes shown in:
http://community.livejournal.com/wrongworddammit/

>>In the real world, we have inflection and innuendo coloring a word's
>>meaning. I am weak at those at well.
>
>Finding out where one's strengths and weaknesses lie might help prevent
>disappointment, Mr Brazee, and unless one is utterly stagnant should be a
>constant source of benefits and surprises.

Well, I'm either growing, or dying. Sometimes it's a race (for
instance my golf game), but mostly I am still growing.

That doesn't mean I don't look at my spreadsheet that shows my income
if I took my pension now - because I can grow in other ways.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Pete Dashwood on
docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
> In article <835oksFq2uU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>> In article <835j6mFp0bU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>>>> In article <82tpr7FubrU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>>> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <84aeba39-2d2b-4fff-96b6-e35b7ad3fcf1(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> Richard <riplin(a)Azonic.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 1983 Paul Allen gave a talk at COMDEC (I think it was) about
>>>>>>>> 'the next version (2) of MS-DOS' where he promised various
>>>>>>>> features such as 'Help' (which did appear in MS-DOS 5). One
>>>>>>>> thing that was promised was command line editing and history
>>>>>>>> (which was already in Unix and DRI's CP/M-86 and other).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My memory is, admittedly, porous, perhaps e'en moreso when it
>>>>>>> comes to two-and-a-half decades-old operating systems... but I
>>>>>>> seem to recall being able to get back at least the last command
>>>>>>> line Enter'd by pressing PF3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I thought that when I read Richard's post, but I saw little
>>>>>> point in responding, as my posts just seem like a red rag to
>>>>>> Richard, and it is not a particularly important part of the
>>>>>> overall anti-MS diatribe.
>>>>>
>>>>> (note - I recall being taught that male bovines are colorblind and
>>>>> the hue of the cape is dictated by tradition... that being said,
>>>>> on to an attempt at humor and what may now be an obscure literary
>>>>> reference)
>>>>>
>>>>> As the Germans used to say, Mr Dashwood... aiee, Toro, Toro,
>>>>> andale, Toro! Vamanos a la Muerte Por La Tarde!

Speaking of Hemingway, and "Death in the Afternoon"...

I spent a couple of years in Madrid and lived within half a mile of the
Plaza de Toros.

Relaxing on the balcony of our apartment on a Sunday afternoon with a cold
drink, the general peace was punctuated by frequent roars of "Ole!" coming
from the stadium. I wanted to go and see it (just once; I don't condone
torturing animals or people, but I am very interested in the culture of the
place where I am a guest, and there could be more to it than is apparent to
a foreign eye...), but my wife emphatically forbade it and those of you who
are married will understand that in those circumstances the diminishing
returns on pushing it are usually not worth the effort... :-)

As a result, I have never seen live bullfighting, but I can honestly say I
have listened to it.


>>>>
>>>> Si, Papa, pero a veces yo tambien soy un toro... Quieres ir
>>>> pescar? :-)
>>>
>>> Non, je ne veux pas pecher, je veux peche.
>>
>> Ah, an Old Man, perhaps?
>
> Perhaps merely one with a different idea of morality, Mr Dashwood;
> there's a song recorded by Huddie Ledbetter ('Leadbelly') entitled
> 'Ain't It
> a Shame to Fishin' on Sunday'.
>
I play with a local band here sometimes, and occasionally participate in
Folk fests and concerts for charity. I find that "Goodnight Irene" is a firm
favourite across most age groups. Most people don't know it was written by
Ledbetter.

I've never heard the song you mention but will see if I can download/listen
to it.

>>
>> "Yo no soy marinero, soy Capitan, soy Capitan..." :-)
>
> I've applied that to the Americanism of 'Too many Chiefs, not enough
> Indians' with the response of 'Aren't the Chiefs Indians, too?'
>
>>>
>>> (sorry, I don't have the patience to reconfigure pico for the
>>> high-end ASCII letters-with-accents character set... attempts in
>>> the past have caused me to stray into the Dreaded Greek Character
>>> Zone)
>>
>> No, me neither. Still as it is just whimsy, I don't think it
>> matters... (as long as no-one is offended of course...)
>
> If someone is offended then it might be a moment for reflection; that
> which offends often indicates that which is Taken Seriously.
>
>>>
>>> ('Hoi, Stavros, Alexi, Iannos... we have own Zone now!')
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> That would be a stretch of sand where grown men embrace each other
>> then dance with their hands in the air and fingers snapping, while
>> Melina Mercouri runs to bring them Retsina and similar forms of wood
>> varnish...
>
> It was such a very long time ago... it seems to have varnished into
> the woodwork.
>

LOL! Excellent, Doc. :-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


From: Pete Dashwood on
SkippyPB wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:49:16 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:
>
>> In article <835oksFq2uU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>>> In article <835j6mFp0bU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>>>>> In article <82tpr7FubrU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> Pete Dashwood <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <84aeba39-2d2b-4fff-96b6-e35b7ad3fcf1(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> Richard <riplin(a)Azonic.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 1983 Paul Allen gave a talk at COMDEC (I think it was)
>>>>>>>>> about 'the next version (2) of MS-DOS' where he promised
>>>>>>>>> various features such as 'Help' (which did appear in MS-DOS
>>>>>>>>> 5). One thing that was promised was command line editing and
>>>>>>>>> history (which was already in Unix and DRI's CP/M-86 and
>>>>>>>>> other).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My memory is, admittedly, porous, perhaps e'en moreso when it
>>>>>>>> comes to two-and-a-half decades-old operating systems... but I
>>>>>>>> seem to recall being able to get back at least the last command
>>>>>>>> line Enter'd by pressing PF3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I thought that when I read Richard's post, but I saw little
>>>>>>> point in responding, as my posts just seem like a red rag to
>>>>>>> Richard, and it is not a particularly important part of the
>>>>>>> overall anti-MS diatribe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (note - I recall being taught that male bovines are colorblind
>>>>>> and the hue of the cape is dictated by tradition... that being
>>>>>> said, on to an attempt at humor and what may now be an obscure
>>>>>> literary reference)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the Germans used to say, Mr Dashwood... aiee, Toro, Toro,
>>>>>> andale, Toro! Vamanos a la Muerte Por La Tarde!
>>>>>
>>>>> Si, Papa, pero a veces yo tambien soy un toro... Quieres ir
>>>>> pescar? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Non, je ne veux pas pecher, je veux peche.
>>>
>>> Ah, an Old Man, perhaps?
>>
>> Perhaps merely one with a different idea of morality, Mr Dashwood;
>> there's a song recorded by Huddie Ledbetter ('Leadbelly') entitled
>> 'Ain't It
>> a Shame to Fishin' on Sunday'.
>>
>
> Not to nitpick but as a blues afficinado, I had to enter a slight
> correction here to the name of Doc's Ledbelly song title. It is an
> old American Folk song that he recorded and it goes by the title of,
> "Ain't It a Shame to Go Fishin' on Sunday" or "Keep Your Hands Off
> Her". You'd never think it, but Nirvana among other also covered this
> song.

Thanks for that, Steve. Noted.

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


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